Stevie Ward to Sue Leeds

[jobo]

When I played(amateur) we used to have a bloke come round offering us insurance if we wanted it. Do pro players not need any form of insurance these days? I understand it's professional but surely clubs/players have to take out insurance, or maybe concussion isn't covered by it

The players are covered by insurance, the cost of which has rocketed since the potential affects of concussion have become more apparent.

[WarriorWinger]

I wonder how many potential concussions he may have suffered when playing at amateur level.

Should players sue their former amateur clubs, should they sue their parents who probably drove them to training and games each week and if they were a good player probably encouraged/made them play each week.

If anyone taking up RL does not know that there is a potential they may get injured and in some rare cases seriously injured, then they must not have much between the ears in the first place

[Ipinwigan]

I wonder how many potential concussions he may have suffered when playing at amateur level.

Should players sue their former amateur clubs, should they sue their parents who probably drove them to training and games each week and if they were a good player probably encouraged/made them play each week.

If anyone taking up RL does not know that there is a potential they may get injured and in some rare cases seriously injured, then they must not have much between the ears in the first place

Well said, common sense, but we appear to have lost that in today's society.

[Mike]

I wonder how many potential concussions he may have suffered when playing at amateur level.

Should players sue their former amateur clubs, should they sue their parents who probably drove them to training and games each week and if they were a good player probably encouraged/made them play each week.

If anyone taking up RL does not know that there is a potential they may get injured and in some rare cases seriously injured, then they must not have much between the ears in the first place

I think that's an argument to ban the game.

[nathan_rugby]

I wonder how many potential concussions he may have suffered when playing at amateur level.

Should players sue their former amateur clubs, should they sue their parents who probably drove them to training and games each week and if they were a good player probably encouraged/made them play each week.

If anyone taking up RL does not know that there is a potential they may get injured and in some rare cases seriously injured, then they must not have much between the ears in the first place

I assume he is sueing Leeds on some form of basis that they didn’t follow proper concussion protocol which meant he played too soon and suffered another consussion which led to his retirement.

That scenario is completely different to what you have suggested above.

It isn’t about players knowing there’s a risk of injury, it’s about duty of care.

If you were a builder and a brick fell on your head and gave you a brain injury, would you sue the company if you found out they skipped health and safety and it directly resulted in your injury? Or would you shrug it off and say there’s always a risk on a building site?

[keptinthedarkfans]

I wonder how many potential concussions he may have suffered when playing at amateur level.

Should players sue their former amateur clubs, should they sue their parents who probably drove them to training and games each week and if they were a good player probably encouraged/made them play each week.

If anyone taking up RL does not know that there is a potential they may get injured and in some rare cases seriously injured, then they must not have much between the ears in the first place

I assume he is sueing Leeds on some form of basis that they didn’t follow proper concussion protocol which meant he played too soon and suffered another consussion which led to his retirement.

That scenario is completely different to what you have suggested above.

It isn’t about players knowing there’s a risk of injury, it’s about duty of care.

If you were a builder and a brick fell on your head and gave you a brain injury, would you sue the company if you found out they skipped health and safety and it directly resulted in your injury? Or would you shrug it off and say there’s always a risk on a building site?

Not the best example.
You couldn't sue anyone. He would not be allowed on site without wearing a hard hat and all ppe so building company has fulfilled his duty of care. I would also argue as same sort of scull cap is easily available for rugby players.

[Mike]

I wonder how many potential concussions he may have suffered when playing at amateur level.

Should players sue their former amateur clubs, should they sue their parents who probably drove them to training and games each week and if they were a good player probably encouraged/made them play each week.

If anyone taking up RL does not know that there is a potential they may get injured and in some rare cases seriously injured, then they must not have much between the ears in the first place

I assume he is sueing Leeds on some form of basis that they didn’t follow proper concussion protocol which meant he played too soon and suffered another consussion which led to his retirement.

That scenario is completely different to what you have suggested above.

It isn’t about players knowing there’s a risk of injury, it’s about duty of care.

If you were a builder and a brick fell on your head and gave you a brain injury, would you sue the company if you found out they skipped health and safety and it directly resulted in your injury? Or would you shrug it off and say there’s always a risk on a building site?

Not the best example.
You couldn't sue anyone. He would not be allowed on site without wearing a hard hat and all ppe so building company has fulfilled his duty of care. I would also argue as same sort of scull cap is easily available for rugby players.

I see, take a shot at the example, but not the principle - which is pretty clear. If your employer did not follow safety regulations and best practices and you were injured as a direct result - you can sue.

[keptinthedarkfans]

I assume he is sueing Leeds on some form of basis that they didn’t follow proper concussion protocol which meant he played too soon and suffered another consussion which led to his retirement.

That scenario is completely different to what you have suggested above.

It isn’t about players knowing there’s a risk of injury, it’s about duty of care.

If you were a builder and a brick fell on your head and gave you a brain injury, would you sue the company if you found out they skipped health and safety and it directly resulted in your injury? Or would you shrug it off and say there’s always a risk on a building site?

Not the best example.
You couldn't sue anyone. He would not be allowed on site without wearing a hard hat and all ppe so building company has fulfilled his duty of care. I would also argue as same sort of scull cap is easily available for rugby players.

I see, take a shot at the example, but not the principle - which is pretty clear. If your employer did not follow safety regulations and best practices and you were injured as a direct result - you can sue.

Not taking a shot at anything what I was trying to highlight is there are set safety guidelines in the building trade with ppe as law. There is safety ppe for all sports played including headgear but no legislation in place to make this mandatory in adult rugby. What suprises me is the amount of players now coming forward with head injuries but there is no increase in players taking head protection.

[nathan_rugby]

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Not the best example.
You couldn't sue anyone. He would not be allowed on site without wearing a hard hat and all ppe so building company has fulfilled his duty of care. I would also argue as same sort of scull cap is easily available for rugby players.

I see, take a shot at the example, but not the principle - which is pretty clear. If your employer did not follow safety regulations and best practices and you were injured as a direct result - you can sue.

Not taking a shot at anything what I was trying to highlight is there are set safety guidelines in the building trade with ppe as law. There is safety ppe for all sports played including headgear but no legislation in place to make this mandatory in adult rugby. What suprises me is the amount of players now coming forward with head injuries but there is no increase in players taking head protection.

How has head protection worked in the NFL?

[Superb Chops]

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This last comment is right.

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