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I cannot be bothered to go back to find the threads but people scoffed when I said Hock was world class. What we are seeing now is actually only 50% of what we will get when he is fully fit. No missed tackles then and breaks /offloads a plenty. People forget just what form he was in before he got injured.

cpwigan posted:
I cannot be bothered to go back to find the threads but people scoffed when I said Hock was world class. What we are seeing now is actually only 50% of what we will get when he is fully fit. No missed tackles then and breaks /offloads a plenty. People forget just what form he was in before he got injured.

Well said he looks like he has never been away. When fully fit he will be hard to better by any player in the Super League.

Fantastic player and I've never said anything otherwise, I said a couple of years back him and Lockers would be the back bone of our team for the next decade, hopefully this is still the case!

He's the 2nd best 2nd rower in our team IMO and is still behind Fletcher but wow you can see how he's been missed.

Fletcher is not a patch on Hock. The Fletcher of 5 years ago maybe but not the 2006 version

cpwigan posted:
Fletcher is not a patch on Hock. The Fletcher of 5 years ago maybe but not the 2006 version

I agree with you here for me Fletcher has been a bad signing but whats new?

I would not say a bad signing and I'm prepared to give him time but unfortunately the Fletcher I remember playing for Aus / NSW and the Roosters was far better than he is today.

send hock to bulls if you don't want him

Flash posted:

Wigan Watcher posted:

cpwigan posted:
Fletcher is not a patch on Hock. The Fletcher of 5 years ago maybe but not the 2006 version

I agree with you here for me Fletcher has been a bad signing but whats new?

Sorry but I've got to disagree again here. How can you reach this conclusion after a handful of games, returning from a life threatening operation and with several good performances under his belt already. Surely it's way too early to say he has been a bad signing? If you are saying that you think he will prove to be a bad signing, then I suppose time will tell.....

I call it as I see it and stand by what I say. I understand what you are saying but when you get a feel about someones performance (no Jokes please) then you stick by it!

Hock has made an excellent comeback but I have to disagree with CPWigan re his form previously. IIRC when he first broke into the team he was full of tries but had slumped a bit just as he got hurt. A minor point, though. He looks the part now and I expect to see himgetting more and more game time until he is at 80 minutes a la Lockers.

Re Fletcher I have a different opinion in that, after what he has been through, he probably has a new perspective on life and on his priorities. It's really unfortunate, but I don't expect to see him run through walls for us.

Hang on a bit this guy has just had major surgery and was back on the park within a few weeks he has brought a bit of power and leadership to the pack get him and Hock fully fit and some good assets on the bench we will get on a roll