Even Andrew Johns needs a reasonable pack of forwards. Warrington are sorely lacking in that department. Wonder whether or not the signing has had the opposite effect upon morale than was intended.

It does not mean he will sign for us and to be honest everytime I read anything he is linked with Saints but Leon Pryce was given a guided tour of the JJB etc way back in late June/early July

You cannot blame clubs for doing this as they are not breaking any rules. However, I think it is safe to assume they will pass a rule to end this new trend from next season onwards.

<r>Chris I'm going back 60's, 70's even in Aus. Nothing to do with Red hall, sorry <E>:(</E> <br/> <br/> Rob, I would alter sin binning so that it did not require a penalty to be mandatory. Just sin bin and play on.<br/> <br/> Interesting discussion though. Far better than the real one that Cummins ...

What does suprise me Doug is the strength of the £ to the Aussie $ has not had more sway in attractng quality Aussies. A £ = 2.25 Aus $. Andrew Johns if he's on the reputed £10,000+ per match must be

<t>Chris, honestly real scrums at a pro level are a nightmare, both hookers block the tunnel and the ball never gets put in as it bounces back and the referee just penalises scrum after scrum. Also back in the day, if you completed your set of 6 tackles well it might have been less then :doz: you go...

<t>I may be wrong cos they change these rules so much but there has/was a facility to sin bin for 5 or 10 minutes. I think sin binning a player for 5 minutes hurts that team more than purely conceding a penalty. There are teams that once in front will conceded penalties as opposed to tries.<br/> <br...

I think Kimmorley has the self belief/arrogance to believe that bar Johns he's the best. Just my take

Just a thought (I'm against high penalty counts), why not sin bin players for 5 minutes, then 10 rather than keep awarding penalties.

I think he will remain in Aus anyway. Joey Johns is retiring from Origin after next year, maybe Kangaroos too so that gives Kimmorley the incentive to stay in Aus