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turf posted:
The penalty for CA was quite confusing actually?
Confusing yes...but i suppose all these confusing decisions somehow calaboraate to the best team on the day winning on the day................ I hope!
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Can anyone tell me what the penalty count was? It felt like 20-2 or something ( although it was probably 16-8 ). I really thought we were being caned - was our disapline really that bad?

Ps feildens sin binning was obviously a holding-on con - are the refs really that niave? Apparently so.

Pps still on way back - wandering around in haze trying to find station for too long ...
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Mike posted:
Can anyone tell me what the penalty count was? It felt like 20-2 or something ( although it was probably 16-8 ). I really thought we were being caned - was our disapline really that bad?

Ps feildens sin binning was obviously a holding-on con - are the refs really that niave? Apparently so.

Pps still on way back - wandering around in haze trying to find station for too long ...
The penalty count was prob just in Leeds favour tonight mike but was pretty much even in th efirst half, though most of the penaltys in the later stages of the match were dubious IMO

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I remember it being said there were 14 shared between the two in the first half? And not long into the second it was into the twenties.
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I thought Fielden deserved sin binning. You cannot claim the ball carrier is holding you down with his ball carrying arm. I actually thought Hock was the unlucky one. When Silverwood blew he had let go of Burrow and I think he let go in good time. Leeds were guilty of a lot of piggybacking at the POTB. 12 monhs ago that was flavour of the month re penalising players.

The key for me was his error re Ashton. He wrongly called held when Ashton was not held and compounded it by awarding a penalty. From that penalty the game did a 360 and Leeds went on the rampage.
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cpwigan posted:
I thought Fielden deserved sin binning. You cannot claim the ball carrier is holding you down with his ball carrying arm. I actually thought Hock was the unlucky one. When Silverwood blew he had let go of Burrow and I think he let go in good time.
Having just watched the highlights again I think you have it the wrong way around.

It was clear on the replay Fielden could not get his arm out and he yells "You're listening to them!!!" at the ref when he gets sin binned and I think he was right.

With Hock he was quite sly and sort of did it in passing so it was a penalty and if the ref thought it was a professional fouls then a sin binning but that brings me back to the Withers/Klien decision where Withers actually went for dissent not the foul for a virtually identical if not more blatent penalty offence.
The key for me was his error re Ashton. He wrongly called held when Ashton was not held and compounded it by awarding a penalty. From that penalty the game did a 360 and Leeds went on the rampage.
That was a bad call and it wasn't a hard one either.

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silverwood didn't have the balls to send off bailey for the high shot on fielden,if he or the TJ have seen it he should have gone.if it had been the other way around he would have done,all this on report is a way edgeing refs bets for gods sake,if they are being paid to do a professional job act professional and make an instant desision,or ask the video ref to make it.
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turf posted:
Was ok tonight. He could have pulled yellow/red cards out for Leeds, YES, I admit that, but he decided not to spoil the game.

He was right to send Fielden to the bin. Thackary was holding him down, but on the flip side, Fielden was holdinh Thackary down, result - scorrect dishing out of the yellow card because he had just warned us.

Also got the Hock sin binning spot on.

It would have been impossible for Mr Silverwood to keep his whistle in his pocket tonight because of both teams poor tackling teqniques (spelling).
If you think that was a good performance from Silverwood, you need your head checked out Turf! He was totally influenced by the Leed crowd, and lost complete control of the game! Fielden was obviously having his arm held, and like Dave O pointed out, an obvious knock on from Kyle Lulu and he gives a Leeds penalty! We had to play Leeds and the referee last night! Totally shambolic display from Silverwood!
I'm sure you must have been wathing the Football instead last night!
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DaveO posted:
Soon after the sin bin a bad head high tackle from Leeds and he doesn't even put him on report.

Leuluai knocked on and he gave Leeds a penalty! What was that about?

Good game? You must be joking.

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Thanks Dave, I am pleased someone else saw the game more as I did.
Silverwood was responsible for allowing Leeds to get into the game with questionable decisions enabling Leeds to progress up the field and score those first two tries. On many like for like decisions (hands in at the tackle, players flopping, holding down etc) Leeds were easy as guilty as Wigan, however Silverwood just seemed ignore it - referees interpretation.
For me he was very one sided towards the Loiners. How many penalties were Leeds privelaged to get into the Wigan attacking zone compared to the one (I think) Wigan were given in Leeds attacking zone.
I am totally biased, as usual, but for me he tried his best for Leeds, thankfully to no avail.
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trotski_tgwu posted:
Mike posted:
Can anyone tell me what the penalty count was? It felt like 20-2 or something ( although it was probably 16-8 ). I really thought we were being caned - was our disapline really that bad?

Ps feildens sin binning was obviously a holding-on con - are the refs really that niave? Apparently so.

Pps still on way back - wandering around in haze trying to find station for too long ...
The penalty count was prob just in Leeds favour tonight mike but was pretty much even in th efirst half, though most of the penaltys in the later stages of the match were dubious IMO
Penalty count maybe reasonably even in total number - and all the officials will say "look at the penalties scoresheet".
My question is, how many penalties were Wigan awarded in the Leeds half, never mind the all important attacking zone?
It bears no comparisson to the amount what Leeds were given in the Wigan half (attacking area).
This in my opinion, makes a big difference for chances of points on the board when you are pressurising like Wigan were last night, it also enable Leeds to get back in the game.
I thought Siverwood was very clever and astute in his decision making, as I say it "interpretation of the rule".
Thankfully the criminal never got away with the crime last night, as the best team won.
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