Booing...

[Fraggle]

FROM A TO B posted:
you pays your money, your entititled to give your opinions.
The last Hull try was shambolic and the fans reactions were justified.

Similarly there should have been more negative reaction to that Trent Barrett - he misses a drop goal and then his next kick goes into touch on the full! What disgraceful play, send him back to Aus...

[FROM A TO B]

Overrated, overpaid, overhere

[ancientnloyal]

Fraggle posted:

FROM A TO B posted:
you pays your money, your entititled to give your opinions.
The last Hull try was shambolic and the fans reactions were justified.

Similarly there should have been more negative reaction to that Trent Barrett - he misses a drop goal and then his next kick goes into touch on the full! What disgraceful play, send him back to Aus...

I agree, over-rated Australian only here to boss wiganers about. It's all me me me... look I got a drop goal, i like my stats!

Trent Barrett? what a joke he is :exc:

[DaveO]

- psycho - posted:
Not sure if anyone picked up a program and read Martyn Sadler's page on booing the fans.
i'll just take a few points from it and sum up.

'Rugby League players who have lost to a supposedly inferior team have left the field to a catcall of boos and jeers.'

Now, this for me says a lot about some fans. i never boo my own team as i think it's a sign of disrespect to our players and the other teams players.

I think Salder and yourself are missing the point. In fact Sadler is just jumping on a bandwagon. He is a journo after all and not one I particularly respect.

In my experience the only times Wigan have ever been boo'ed is when the fans think that that have not put the effort in. Not because they have lost.

I also completely disagree with the notion it shows lack of respect for the opposition. It is all about how Wigan are playing not the opposition. Watching Wigan drop the ball, saunter back in defence, play one man Rl and miss tackles are what elicits the boos.

It was that shambolic attempt at stopping Manu that got some fans booing v Hull, not disrespect for Hull.

i don't think some fans realise this sport isn't as easy as football where 4 teams boss the divison each year. do we pay enough respect to these so called 'inferior teams'? Hull KR for example. i bet 99% of our crowd would have bet on us beating them this season. so far it hasn't happened. which begs the question, do we pay other teams the respect they deserve? i don't think so.

In the overall scheme of things in RL terms HKR are not a very good side. That is a simple fact. Seeing us perform as poorly as we have done against them at home, twice, deserves the Wigan team to be criticised. That isn't lack of respect and should not be used as an excuse not to criticise the team when they play as poorly as they have done against them or anyone else.

obviously the wire had the same idea as we did last week that we should have waltzed past the so called 'inferior team'.

Didn't see the game so can't comment on Wire's performance but I'd hazard a guess the fans were dissatisfied with the effort put in by their team. If the Wire team were guilty of taking the opposition lightly that is a coaching and team problem but I am sure the fans only get riled when the effort is not there, not when they get beat.

wakefield were top at one point, so were KR, who would have tipped that? it's a much closer competition than some think and teams are no longer guranteed 2 points against 'inferior opposition'. i think some of our fans need to realise that and respect it.

It has nothing to do with the other team and the standard of the "inferior teams" is a different point.

Dave

[the grinch]

everyone is entitled to there opinion when the team play well they get applauded. and when they play poor and dont put in the effort they get booed. sorry if that upsets anyone but thats life.

[jammie]

if a ref is having a bad game and we don't agree we boo,if the team is loseing but putting the effort in we get behind them,but what is unacceptable is the team not putting the effort in and making basic mistakes play after play ,then booing is the only way we can show our collective disapprovable.if we don,t boo what other way can we show we are not happy with the effort?let's face it on the occasions we have booed this season they have deserved it.

[lucky 13]

When Manu scored I didn't boo but was unhappy to say the least think the words ''pathetic'' were mumbled, did any Wigan fan applaud Manu or the effort our team made I don,t think so , even without the booing you would of eard the groans of discontent and while not booing most fans would be guilty of that.

[GeoffN]

jammie posted:
if a ref is having a bad game and we don't agree we boo,if the team is loseing but putting the effort in we get behind them,but what is unacceptable is the team not putting the effort in and making basic mistakes play after play ,then booing is the only way we can show our collective disapprovable.if we don,t boo what other way can we show we are not happy with the effort?let's face it on the occasions we have booed this season they have deserved it.

Spot on. If we lose to a better side, or have a brilliant try scored against us, fair enough; as you say, it's the lack of effort that gets the boos, not necessarily the result. I still think the booing on Saturday contributed to the turn around.

It's no different to any other job, really; if you get a bollocking from your boss, or, say, a complaint from a customer (which is a closer analogy), you should be determined to rectify the faults rather than sulk.

[DaveO]

wgnwrs posted:
I understand the reasons some people would want to boo but it does reflect badly sometimes. The definition of us all is Wigan SUPPORTERS.

The word support is like the word criticism. You can have positive as well as negative criticism but when people see the word they usually think it means a negative response. In a similar way some seem to think support is only ever offering encouragement.

It isn't. If we always supported the team the way you mean they would start to think that sort of play was acceptable. The players have to earn the support because if they get it for nothing it is totally meaningless.

I would go as far as to say only ever offering support is the wrong thing to do.

Dave

[mike binder]

ancientnloyal posted:
Im still not a fan of this though the players did seem to respond in some way.

we have a coupkle of young lions just signed for us ,well next week when the transfer window re opens 4 next season