Who decided on £1.6 million as the sallary cap?

[Fraggle]

- psycho - posted:

screamy18 posted:
y is it that saints have been found guilty the last 2 seasons and had no point deduction at all !!

doesn't matter how many seasons you go over, we all know saints just get a slap on the wrist whatever they do.

what matters is the percentage over. saints were 0.8%? we are more likely above 5%, hence the big deduction.

For once, I have a bit of sympathy for Saints. They went over because they had to pay extra bonuses because two players get selected for GB. What kind of ridiculous system penalises a team because their players are deemed good enough to play for their national team (and in a national team that answers to the RFL, not Superleague yet it's the SL salary cap that gets affected!). That stupid rule has rightly been binned now, and such payments will not be included in future.

[DaveO]

butt monkey posted:
But why does the Cap figure keep going down? No account of inflation or anything else, just a blind obsession to lower the Salary Cap amount each year. Hang the repercussions.

The first rate of the cap in 2004 was £1.8m. Wigan had a dispensation to pay £2.3m for one season.

It then went down to £1.7m in 2005 and it was said the reason for this was the introduction of a link to inflation. So they set it down to a lower figure on the expectation it would then rise year on year. Why they had to do that I don't know.

They then set it £1.75m for 2006 - which was the inflation increase.

This year it went down to £1.6m because the 2006 figure included employers national insurance contributions and these were removed from the cap. As the effect of removing this from the cap was equal to £150K it means the cap effectively remained at the same level.

However you will have no doubt spotted that if the £1.6m this year is effectively the same as last years £1.75m then the inflation increase was not applied.

That is indeed the case and the reason given for this was "The inflationary increase has been waived in favour of excluding Junior/Academy players from the Cap."

Taking a portion of junior players wages out of the cap (£3K per player this season) is a step in the right direction but why does that mean the inflation increase need not be applied? They are totally unrelated as far as I can see.

Next year it will actually go up to £1.65m as the inflation increase is due to be applied.

What you can see from the above is whenever steps have been taken to loosen the cap there has always been another compensating change such as forging the inflation increase. These are IMO fine examples of the tail wagging the dog as I am sure they are a sop to less well off clubs who would bleat at any relaxation of the cap. None of them should ever have been agreed to.

Dave

[JIMH]

Fraggle posted:

For once, I have a bit of sympathy for Saints. They went over because they had to pay extra bonuses because two players get selected for GB. What kind of ridiculous system penalises a team because their players are deemed good enough to play for their national team (and in a national team that answers to the RFL, not Superleague yet it's the SL salary cap that gets affected!). That stupid rule has rightly been binned now, and such payments will not be included in future.

I don't have any sympathy for them fraggle, they only paid those bonuses because they chose to write them into their contracts. the rfl or superleague didnt make them pay thos bonuses.

[gpartin]

Am I right in thinking National League Salary cap excludes Under 21's?