lets all laugh at saints

[cpwigan]

Just as an aside notice what name they use for the ground

[jimofwigan]

Look a piece of advice for St Helens ----- Ground share with the leithers. Now there's a match made in heaven --- both sets of supporters have beem bad mouthing Wigan since Elvis was a lad.So Leighs new ground could be renamed "THE LOSS MAKERS AND LOOSERS STADIUM"

[luke_robinsons_angel]

Do not know about anybody else but I do not care for the Saints Chairmnan. He looks shifty.

He still makes me laugh from the time he got locked out of the willows and had to scale a wall to climb in!

If Saints are so sure they will get their new stadium then why did they let GPW Recruitment sign a sponsorship deal on Knowsley Road till 2012? Something doesn't add up!

[GeoffN]

Do not know about anybody else but I do not care for the Saints Chairmnan. He looks shifty.

He still makes me laugh from the time he got locked out of the willows and had to scale a wall to climb in!

If Saints are so sure they will get their new stadium then why did they let GPW Recruitment sign a sponsorship deal on Knowsley Road till 2012? Something doesn't add up!

Well, even if they started now, it would take a few years to build .

[medlocke]

Do not know about anybody else but I do not care for the Saints Chairmnan. He looks shifty. They make me chuckle though in terms of how they think big companies are going to bow down to them.

he is the spit of that dodgy copper from Emmerdale, when the sombrero pics of him and IL where doing the rounds i originally thought it was an Emmerdale works outing :badg:

[DaveO]

how can a proffesional management team make a loss 10 years running?

If you post a loss, you don't pay tax (at least that's how I understand it).
I suspect this may be a "paper loss" as opposed to a genuine "money falling out of the door" loss. It's going to be all wrapped up with paying players via off-shore banks, the huge depreciation on the stadium (which let's face it, is a dump of the highest order), as well as their zero marketing ability surrounded by two relatively famous wendy-ball teams.

So what you are saying is while they may make a profit in cash terms (for the sake of discussion lets say £100K) but then post a loss because they say the stadium has depreciated in value by, say, £200K? So they make a paper loss of £100K but are not actually running out of money?

If so, how long can they continue to pull this accountancy trick before the Inland Revenue puts a stop to it?

It's simply more evidence of how they've managed to avoid getting stung by salary-cap infringements whilst our bean-counters are still using abacuses and double-entry paper.

Previously the cap was a percentage of income/turnover if your income was less than a certain amount. So what this shows is even if a club makes a loss 10 years running it can still spend to the cap limit if its income/turnover is high enough despite being a loss making organisation.

Dave

[Lazy J]

Doesnt this sound familiar?

Era of great success, attendances start to slide as fans get complacent and start to pic and choose matches. Stadium is a huge finacial burden, costing more and more to keep open, club on the verge of going bust till rescued by new chairman.

which club are we talking about?

look back 10 years that was us, difference was our then chairman/owner had the clout to build his own stadium and rent it to us.

[pedro]

Not really...the cap was brought in tos top this happening. When wigan were in strife there was no cap

[GeoffN]

Doesnt this sound familiar?

Era of great success, attendances start to slide as fans get complacent and start to pic and choose matches.

Not really. Their attendances have always been around the 9-10k mark. They're dropping slightly (when everyone else's are going up) but nothing like as badly as ours did.

Early 90's we were consistently around the 14.5k mark (much as we are now), then they fell to under 9k in 1997, gradually building back to where we are now.
Incidentally, in the early 80's I remember it being as low as 5k.

I've seen a graph somewhere, a good while ago, of our attendances since 1980, I'll try and find it. It made interesting reading.

[mikey]

English Heritage are ready to stick the boot in now,there is something on the proposed sight that could scupper the whole project.Forget Morrisons Come on you HERITAGE!!!!!!!