Celtic v Wigan

[Panchitta Marra]

He will never leave oz as I believe he takes care of his handicapped child who is settled over there. (I could be wrong though)

Sheens is a no go as hes the new national coach.


Stuart Raper would do im not fussy as ANY coach in oz would improve us over this guy

Its hard to see who would take on this UK roll, it would have to be extremely financially viable to the coach too.
Not many good Aussie coaches available that I can see, hence my mention of Murray (hope not).
Ricky Stuart would fit the bill for me too, or Brian Smith.
Lets hope Lenehan has done something positive for Wigan for the new 2010 season.

[cpwigan]

Bennett is a no go re his child and Tim Sheens is old, filthy rich and not interested in coming to the UK.

[jaws1]

just say we could do this for a month ?we swap coaches with saints! i bet we carry on as we are hit and miss and saints carry on winning . you can get any coach in the world if players are not good enough their is nothing he can do? these are not under 13 s. players should not need telling what is wrong we have got a team full of dosie b------ds that we have to live with . you have to be a good loser to be a good winner the day will come .

They are all Noble bought players so there is no excuse.

[highland convert]

Some on here think it wa IL that did the buying and presented Noble with the players. Truth is it is all speculation and also why when they come to Wigan does their reputation fail to follow. Remember those that wanted Barrett and sing his praises the loudest wanted him on the plane home in his first three months. Same again the start of his second year. Robberts, Riddell, Bailey, Carmont, Fika and Pat Richards have all recieved the same treatment from the A&L fans. Maybe if you support them from day one rather than slag them you may get a better response. Remember Barrett wound up the team to play for themselves not IL and the fans who booed them. These are young highly strung players. Fans attitude can be as destroying as it can be uplifting. Take Riddell you keep kicking him but expect him to play that much harder. The fans can demoralise the team then they cry when they get what they expect,
Jim

[GeoffN]

Some on here think it wa IL that did the buying and presented Noble with the players. Truth is it is all speculation and also why when they come to Wigan does their reputation fail to follow. Remember those that wanted Barrett and sing his praises the loudest wanted him on the plane home in his first three months. Same again the start of his second year. Robberts, Riddell, Bailey, Carmont, Fika and Pat Richards have all recieved the same treatment from the A&L fans. Maybe if you support them from day one rather than slag them you may get a better response. Remember Barrett wound up the team to play for themselves not IL and the fans who booed them. These are young highly strung players. Fans attitude can be as destroying as it can be uplifting. Take Riddell you keep kicking him but expect him to play that much harder. The fans can demoralise the team then they cry when they get what they expect,
Jim

It's what the players do that affects the fans reaction, not the other way around, and quite rightly. When they first come onto the pitch, they get cheered, and they're the only ones that determine the reaction after that. If they play well (even if they lose) they get cheered, if they play badly, they don't.

I don't see the point in applauding a bad performance; there's then no incentive to put things right. look at the way the players responded to being booed off last year at home against Huddersfield - they came back to thrash Hull 66-6.

Incidentally, I've just watched the highlights on SLS, and Smith & Roberts were at fault for all 3 of their tries. Will they be dropped? I seriously doubt it, yet one mistake from a player who isn't one of Nobby's favourites will be dropped for the slightest error (or even for no reason at all).

[ancientnloyal]

absolutely disgusted! Have been fuming since half time yesterday, the journey home, in my sleep and 10 hours at work and it is finally time to let it all out here!!!

Went to bridgend yesterday wondering how many points we'd get but after their first try it all seemed to fallflat on it's face!

WE ARE SHI*E! basically. We created NOTHING! NOTHING! Our kicking was pathetic, 2 of our prop forwards especially Fielden was wa**. Why the hell did we keep giving the ball to Richards he seemed to be the only one bothered to try and get forward, he was knackered.

2,500 Wigan fans made the trip, or it seemed that many... turned up to the ground 2 hours before kick off and was delighted to see soo many cherry and white shirts on the terracing we are amazing! I thought that when the wigan team coach came to the ground the first image they'd have seen were the Robin Park faithful enough to gee up and team even Batley.

Unfortunately 95% of the team did f'kall. we had NO ideas, no drive forward, we were kicked off the park by their #7 (name escapes me). WE PLAYED THE WORST EVER SUPER LEAGUE TEAM AND LOST!!!!

what the hell has happened to Wigan?

Go Noble or im not wasting a day of my life and money on a day-away-trip again. Forget quins, catalans, celtic and even the yorkshire teams im not wasting any more time watching a tactical catastrophe!

Mick Hogan reads this board and will read this board today... FOR THE SAKE OF THE CLUB, FANS AND YOUR OWN FINANCES DO THE RIGHT THING AND MAKE A HARD NOSED DECISION.

[ancientnloyal]

There's not been a real match reaction post i guess about the players - will try my best:

Roberts - awful. how can one justify his team place? his right thigh was heavily strapped up. poor in defence, poor in attack his links with gleeson were predictable. He scored, so what? most of the rlfans team could score that try. Huge errors for celtic tries and poor under the ball kicks... i thought he was fast?

Richards - mistook him for a prop he always had the ball driving forward and got knackered, no wonder, he actually seemed arsed. Some nice kick returns but again some poor link ups with ainscough but we had to try something.

Smith - fantastic player warming up, but after 1 second was poor. his kicking was dreadful always seemed to find the celtic cover... w***. We had several chances to go for a bomb on the fifth but chose instead to kick past the ingoal area

Leuluai - CAPTAIN - did nothing, poor kicking, same as smith. and people say lockers doesnt speak? Made oloughlin seem like Obama

Fielden - worlds costliest player!

Riddell - not named Piggy for nothing. 1 good break thats it, his kicking mirrored smith and leuluai.

Feka, strong runs vintage, but a grave mistake gave them a celtic win.

Bailey - rugby league is a hand ball game... we pass it occasionally... please take note.

Joel T - tried, he did try...

Coley - 2nd best prop imo, so that says a lot

Hansen, nice try but quiet. you'd ecpect a Hock-esque performance going forward and The Hitman performance in defence... sadly...

McIlroum - average not much he could do in the circumstances

Prescott - best prop tried hard

Gleeson- predictable diagonal runs with roberts cutting behind inside, felt like deja vu everytime he had it... not bad effort wise

Flanagan - first senior game i think, did ok a few big hits to get rid of cobwebs but didnt create much when we needed creativity.

Ainscough - sadly ainscough lovers he was poor. anybody remember leeds v wigan 18-20 when senior passed to the touch judge... mirror image, no pressure threw it straight out. Showed effort and tremendous speed on kick returns but no way through the celtic defence,Noble's scapegoat I reckon, got a knock on 50 minutes and stayed off. feel sorry forhim but he has a great career.




WE CREATED NOTHING, LITERALLY, NOTHING... if that is hard to fathom, think of a vacuum and there you go... didnt make metres when tackled, never kicked into open spaces when we did it was a fluke. No leadership, nothing!



P.S. Josie andrews had 3 very large, what seemed horse condoms, at kickoff, i dread to think what she ultimately used them for

[cpwigan]

Cheers A & L as for Josie, no comment lol

[DaveO]

Some on here think it wa IL that did the buying and presented Noble with the players. Truth is it is all speculation and also why when they come to Wigan does their reputation fail to follow. Remember those that wanted Barrett and sing his praises the loudest wanted him on the plane home in his first three months. Same at the start of his second year

No, I don't remember that. He started slow as he had a calf injury but after about a month when it was cleared up he went on to put in a Man of Steel performance and I don't think I know one Wigan fan who doesn't think he was hard done by not to win it. Except possible yourself?

As to his second year good teams did to him what they now do to Hock. They ganged up on our most effective player because we had few others to trouble them. It was only the ones who could not see that who thought Barrett was poor. Even so he had IMO far more supporters who recognised a real talent than detractors.

Robberts, Riddell, Bailey, Carmont, Fika and Pat Richards have all recieved the same treatment from the A&L fans. Maybe if you support them from day one rather than slag them you may get a better response.

You simply can not generalise to that extent. Each of those players has had different reactions from the fans for different reasons.

I can only speak for myself but I have said consistently and before he was signed, what did we need Roberts for? When we got him a year early I questioned why when we needed a prop or Barrett replacement. All of that was before he took to the pitch but is any of it unreasonable and it was regardless of how good he might be because we needed players in other posiions?

Since he has taken to the pitch what has he done Ainscough would not have been capable of?

With Riddell I knew nothing of him before he came and despite being disappointed the club got rid of Higham have only judged him on what he has delivered on the pitch which is not much.

As to the rest you mention they have been Wigan players long enough for us all to decide whether they are any good or not.

Remember Barrett wound up the team to play for themselves not IL and the fans who booed them. These are young highly strung players. Fans attitude can be as destroying as it can be uplifting. Take Riddell you keep kicking him but expect him to play that much harder. The fans can demoralise the team then they cry when they get what they expect,
Jim

Riddell is an ex-NRL pro who only gets "kicking" because since he arrived failed to deliver. What do you expect after more than half a season of poor play? He wasn't slagged off before he started.

You never know, with a different coach he may be more effective!

Dave

[emma warriors simply the best]

that game was a complete and utter joke im ashamed 2 say the least i spent over 6hrs on a coach 2 get there spent around 50 quid 2 get there to watch them and they dont even have the decency to show up and play im just glad we lost at the final whistle because a win would have just covered over the cracks in that team once again as for pat richards he needed to be brought off that field as soon as he got on it his head was just not in that game at all.
For once Brian noble admits to there being a problem and shows emotion at that sorry state of affairs that i witnessed yesterday we dont have a team who wants to play for WIGAN anymore we have a team who want to get paid for playin rugby league no matter who it is they play for. were all goin to wembley ha i think we seriously need to reconcider that thought because unless anything changes then every team will be beating us week in week out because we are just playing the same game everyweek its predictable to the oposition, full credit to you Celtic you took full advantage and played which is more than can be said for the 17 on the opposing side!