A paradox that I cannot get my head around?

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cpwigan
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Re: A paradox that I cannot get my head around?

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So are you saying a player who takes drugs for their own personal use should be punished more than a player who inflicts violence on another person? P n B?

Do you believe the punishments carried out by Warrington, St Helens, Hull KR, Wigan upon Reardon/Pryce, Cockayne and Feka were appropriate?

Do you believe clubs should actively court a player who has glassed a woman? To continue to play him once convicted?

Why do you think the RFL Compliance Department has never taken action ever against player and club when a player is convicted?
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Re: A paradox that I cannot get my head around?

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gp..you wouldn't say that if somebody close to you became a victim of a drug crime would you?
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Are the consequences of drugs any worse than violence that blights society today. We do not ban alcohol consumption and that leads to untold misery, violence every week in every part of Britain.
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Re: A paradox that I cannot get my head around?

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I'm with you CP I think that recreational drugs and performance enhancing drugs should bear a seperate punishment. I'm not just saying this because its one of my own, I thought this was the case when Mutu got 2years for cocaine when he was at Chelsea.

I also said the same thing today re Bird saying Hock will get a 2year ban and Bird will walk ou of prison and straight back onto the pitch. Can't fathom it out.
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Re: A paradox that I cannot get my head around?

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cp...i agreed the victim of that assault as an example you used would find it very easy to agree with you, and yes, the crime was against nobody but himself...that is on the face of it.
the true crime comes from what i said....mob, murder, money launder, the loss of a family member who became a user...its all because somebody right at the bottom of this ugly crime wants to sniff the stuff.

No sniffers, then the pre-crime wouldn't exsist
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primrose-n-blue wrote:gp..you wouldn't say that if somebody close to you became a victim of a drug crime would you?
You could say that about any criminal act P n B.

Leon Pryce has been found guilty twice and yet we had the ridiculous actions of his coach telling us he is a nice man really. No action taken. Well a slap on the wrist.

Surely if George Flannagan and Gareth Hock = 2 year bans then so does Leon Pryce? Stuart Reardon? Ben Cockayne? Greg Bird?

Do you not agree that the RFL and its member clubs look ridiculous.

I would suggest that if UK Sport did not demand it, the RFL would not act so strictly on drug use.

Forget whether you think right / wrong. the absurdity of the difference in response is there for anyone and everybody to see.
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primrose-n-blue wrote:cp...i agreed the victim of that assault as an example you used would find it very easy to agree with you, and yes, the crime was against nobody but himself...that is on the face of it.
the true crime comes from what i said....mob, murder, money launder, the loss of a family member who became a user...its all because somebody right at the bottom of this ugly crime wants to sniff the stuff.

No sniffers, then the pre-crime wouldn't exsist
If the Govt etc etc got their act together then people like Gareth Hock would not be able to buy the drugs. So is he a victim? Yet you can go out and assault women and get don't be a naught boy, carry on regardless.

Violence has always existed. It always will sadly but I am not shrinking violet and at 40 years old I can tell any school child can buy drugs yet when I was 18-21 if you wanted drugs you had to search hard for them. Canabis was probably the only commen drug and even that was not so readily available.

It cannot be right that players convicted of violence carry on playing and are virtually condoned especially if they are good players.
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Re: A paradox that I cannot get my head around?

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cp...you still not seeing the woods for the trees
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Re: A paradox that I cannot get my head around?

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cpwigan wrote:
primrose-n-blue wrote:cp...i agreed the victim of that assault as an example you used would find it very easy to agree with you, and yes, the crime was against nobody but himself...that is on the face of it.
the true crime comes from what i said....mob, murder, money launder, the loss of a family member who became a user...its all because somebody right at the bottom of this ugly crime wants to sniff the stuff.

No sniffers, then the pre-crime wouldn't exsist
If the Govt etc etc got their act together then people like Gareth Hock would not be able to buy the drugs. So is he a victim? .
No...he's a user (alledged)
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primrose-n-blue wrote:gp..you wouldn't say that if somebody close to you became a victim of a drug crime would you?
Yes, they have, and I do
Gareth Thomas before his first game: "You wanna spend 10 mins getting smashed up by these guys..Big dudes here.."


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