warrior1973 wrote:He should'nt bother looking at the style of Super League, he should bring with him the way the NRL is played!!!!. Deep attacking lines with forwards acting as dummy runners and everything coming from your half backs, flat attack doesnt work!!!. Stop trying to get up from the play the ball area at a million miles an hour and then spilling the ball. Take your time, let your attacking line get deep and your half backs get set, this will give the referee time to take the defencive line back the full 10 instead of constently being offside!!! and finally......pick a club captain that is a born leader that picks the team up and isnt the captain cause his brother in law was a lagend!!!.
If we play like they do in the NRL we will be the most penalised team in the history of Superleague. The Australians wrestle on the floor a lot more than is allowed in the UK game, also this means the game is a lot slower around the POTB. The comment about giving the referee time to take defences back is not relevant, if the team don't get back, penalise them. if this means 200 pnalties a game for the first two rounds, so be it. The clubs will then ensure teams get back, and the problem has been solved.
One last thing.
When Lockers got the captaincy, was there realistically anyone else at the club that could fulfil the role? I don't think there was.
I dont understand how you say the ref taking them back the full 10 isnt relevance!!!. Because the attacking player in superleague is trying to get up so fast, the ref doesnt even get back the full 10!!!. The deffencive line is infact onside to the ref, but by the time the ball is played they, including the ref, are in reality only about 8 metres back!!!. The relevance in this is huge!!!!. If you watch the Melbourne storm closely, the attacking player tackled with the ball holds back until his attacking line is set. With a deep line of attacking backs and a flat line of forwards acting as dummy runners, the deffencive line has further to travel which means their line gets staggered and creates gaps!!!. Just watch the Kargaroos in a few weeks time, ths is how their attacking lines are far superior to ours!!. Yes Slater and Ingles are class, but by the time they recieve the ball they are in space thats been created by the inside organisation of his team mates.
I agree with you with Lockers being the only person availabe for captaincy. It was actually a travisty that Trent Barrett wasnt appointed captain during his time though!!!. With a player with the quality Barrett had, he should have been used for the skills he had just like brown has done with Hodgson at Hudersfiled. Last year when Lockers was injured and Barrett was captain, we played our best rugby over the last 5 years!!!. Yes we missed Lockers for his deffence and heart, but we gained a captain that organised his players around him and kept a level head and could read the game. Maybe MM has got some players he may wish to bring over with him, Cooper Cronk or Cammeron Smith would be nice!!. Its very rarely that an Aussie coach comes over and doesnt bring the odd player with him!!
I wasn't saying the teams not getting back the full ten isn't relevant, what I meant was, the speed of the POTB shouldn't be determined by whether the defence have time to get back. If a player lands knees & elbows and regains his feet quickly to play the ball, if the defence are not back, then the ref should penalse them, hence the suggstion of 200 penalties in a game. The defensive team would after a game or two realise that they needed to get back the full 10 and the problem would, I hope, be solved.
To do anything other than this would be similar to Grid iron football and stop the game at every tackle to allow the teams to set up correctly, which would be inordinately boring.
I've never seen a woman with hairy ears, and I've been to St Helens." John Bishop
"BANG,CRASH,WALLOP, TRY". E. Hemmings describing Palea'asina's try against KR, Play off 26/09/09
exile in Tiger country wrote:I wasn't saying the teams not getting back the full ten isn't relevant, what I meant was, the speed of the POTB shouldn't be determined by whether the defence have time to get back. If a player lands knees & elbows and regains his feet quickly to play the ball, if the defence are not back, then the ref should penalse them, hence the suggstion of 200 penalties in a game. The defensive team would after a game or two realise that they needed to get back the full 10 and the problem would, I hope, be solved.
To do anything other than this would be similar to Grid iron football and stop the game at every tackle to allow the teams to set up correctly, which would be inordinately boring.
I agree with what your saying, yet due to the play the ball being so quick it isnt just the deffencive line that doesnt get back the full 10....its also the referee that doesnt!!!. A quick play the ball is everything in Superleague and without that our attacking sklls are nullified. Remember last years world cup when the Aussies slowed our play the all down, we had no idea what to do with our attack cause we wasnt used to having so much time with the ball. As i said earlier, the aussies dont fight to get up from the play the ball anymore. The ref has time to take them back the full 10 and there arnt loads of penaties cause eveyone is onside. This gives the attacking line time to get set and go through the moves they pracice in training instead of playing pannic rugby cause the deffence is on them too quick!!
I can appreciate what you are saying, and it sounds like what we need is to educate the referee's then. I can fully agree that giving the attacking team chance to set the play will improve the whole game, so if we can get Cummings et al on board, the standard of Superleage should improve dramatically.
I've never seen a woman with hairy ears, and I've been to St Helens." John Bishop
"BANG,CRASH,WALLOP, TRY". E. Hemmings describing Palea'asina's try against KR, Play off 26/09/09
Michael is here on a learning curve, to make mistakes and learn from them; once thats done he'llhead home. Unfortunately we have a trainee instead of the mature tried and tested professional.
A complete Joke and IMO another reason IL is an idiot.[/size]
No one is to stone anybody until I blow this whistle!
Michael is here on a learning curve, to make mistakes and learn from them; once thats done he'llhead home. Unfortunately we have a trainee instead of the mature tried and tested professional.
A complete Joke and IMO another reason IL is an idiot.[/size]
Yeah we could have had a tried and tested pro...like Millward...or Noble...
