AINSCOUGH BACK AT WIGAN

[weststand-rich]

Yes. Yes he is.

Freakishly large would be my description. Almost unnaturally large

[No straw damn us]

So isn't Joel Tomkins twice the size of Sam and Logan?
Be careful where this is heading. Shaun Ainscough does work very hard in the gym. However I still don't think that he is good enough for Wigan.

[Sutty]

So isn't Joel Tomkins twice the size of Sam and Logan?
Be careful where this is heading. Shaun Ainscough does work very hard in the gym. However I still don't think that he is good enough for Wigan.

I don't mean in that sense, he's posted pics on his Facebook profile and it's nothing to do with differences in height or bone structure. That said, I know what you are saying and I'm not going to mention anything else on the subject.

[cpwigan]

Geoff I cannot agree with you re the first try. Ainscough never gets off the ground, never makes it difficult for Sharp and he is able to play his partin the set play perfectly TOO EASY. Ainscough far too often never gets up in the air. Often the player who gets up first gets the ball. Some people have said well the winger patting the ball back infield has the easier task. There is nothing to stop the defending winger palming the ball, punchiong it out when it is whay a yard from touchline. Therein lies the problem with Ainsy not only is he thick away from the game, he has no RL intelligence either. He could even catch it.

Nope, he took the best option, IMO. His job is to stop his winger scoring, Bails's job is to stop the centre scoring. He's entitled to expect the rest of the team to do their jobs in defence.

If he catches it, odds are he gets tackled into touch or behing the line and they get the ball back. The best option is for Bails to make the tackle, and we get possession.
Knocking the ball out should be the last option, as they then get a repeat set, and you only see that option deliberately used when there are no other defenders in the area.


In any case, you're trying to use one single incident to justify criticism of his defence, when there were far worse defensive errors by other players.

Geoff I am perplexed how you can argue that Ainscough should do nothing which is in fact what both he and Bailey both did and led to a try. Doing nothing is rarely an option but if Ainscough does something the move ends. So what if we get a repeat set to defend. Better than 6pts. The point I always make is that defence is critical and a single mistake can lose you close games. Ainscough was poor v Quins, inferior to what Goulding has been producing which you readily admit. Only deluded Dave refuses to acknowledge that fact.

[GeoffN]

Geoff I am perplexed how you can argue that Ainscough should do nothing which is in fact what both he and Bailey both did and led to a try. Doing nothing is rarely an option but if Ainscough does something the move ends. So what if we get a repeat set to defend. Better than 6pts. The point I always make is that defence is critical and a single mistake can lose you close games. Ainscough was poor v Quins, inferior to what Goulding has been producing which you readily admit. Only deluded Dave refuses to acknowledge that fact.

Ainscough managed to get in position, which is why Sharp was forced to palm back, rather than catch & score (as he would have if Ainy had in fact done nothing). It was an excellent kick, which even Pat would have struggled to get to - such kicks always favour the attacker, which is precisely why so many tries are scored from that tactic, even against good defence.

What should have happened is that Bails tackles the centre and we get possession back, but he was too slow in sliding.

You're still concentrating on one debatable "error" when most of the team made far more. The fact remains that if it was anyone but Ainscough, you wouldn't be making so much fuss about it, and you're ignoring the errors by others that led to the other 5 tries.

[cpwigan]

Geoff the palming back is a set play by Quins. A very good one but just that. They used it in the match the week before and they used it several times v Wigan, scoring only once. Ainscough made it too easy for Sharpe. If he competes he makes it far harder to get a perfect palm back which they only managed once.

If you think about. The opposing winger has one advantage he can run onto the ball even from behind. The one big advanrage the cdefending winger has is that he does not have to catch the ball nor touch down. A single palm on the ball is all that is needed. If you are short then you need those arms up in the arm to make yourself as tall as possible.

[Kiwiseddon]

Right. Time to settle this once and for all. As It's never going to get resolved on here so this is what I propose...

We'll get CP and DaveO to challenge each other to a dual! One in an Ainscough shirt and one in Goulding's. They can chuck pies at each other from either side of Wigan Pier until one of them falls in the cut. The winner can claim to be the Grand Master Supreme Champion Big Dog Bestest Wigan Fan ever and will reign supreme over Wiganwarriorsfans.com



OR.......


They could agree to disagree!!!!!!!!

[Kiwiseddon]

Last post should have been on the Wigan quins thread. Now I look an idiot.......again!

[GeoffN]

Right. Time to settle this once and for all. As It's never going to get resolved on here so this is what I propose...

We'll get CP and DaveO to challenge each other to a dual! One in an Ainscough shirt and one in Goulding's. They can chuck pies at each other from either side of Wigan Pier until one of them falls in the cut. The winner can claim to be the Grand Master Supreme Champion Big Dog Bestest Wigan Fan ever and will reign supreme over Wiganwarriorsfans.com

I'd buy a ticket to that!

[highland convert]

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