General Election

[jobo]

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Nice one A&L

[ancientnloyal]

not in my garden i googled it to help sway undecided voters.

Seen a giant sign in westhoughton today, covered by a bush, just said 'Vote Lab'

[the_cow]

I voted for an independent in the Makerfield constituency who posted a leaflet through my door that I found interesting. Was toying with voting Tory (can't do any worse than Labour imo), but all 3 major party candidates live (and i presume originate from) nowhere near the Wigan area- Lib Dem = Liverpool, Labour = Warrington and Tory = Dewsbury. What in the world do they know about this area? (they probably use wikipedia for research ha).

I don't criticise any one for voting in line with who represents their views the best. However, I hate it when people vote in line with what 'they have always done'. I most commonly experience this with Labour people- the Labour party today is so far removed from the traditional Labour party it is untrue. Vote for who you agree with now at this present moment- not what they were 20/30/40 years ago.

[gpartin]

I voted for an independent in the Makerfield constituency who posted a leaflet through my door that I found interesting. Was toying with voting Tory (can't do any worse than Labour imo), but all 3 major party candidates live (and i presume originate from) nowhere near the Wigan area- Lib Dem = Liverpool, Labour = Warrington and Tory = Dewsbury. What in the world do they know about this area? (they probably use wikipedia for research ha).

I don't criticise any one for voting in line with who represents their views the best. However, I hate it when people vote in line with what 'they have always done'. I most commonly experience this with Labour people- the Labour party today is so far removed from the traditional Labour party it is untrue. Vote for who you agree with now at this present moment- not what they were 20/30/40 years ago.

I've been very clear this year that I am voting on policy 100%. The tories and lib dems were at a disadvantage by not telling me any pf their policies so I had to go with Tax credits, minimum wage, shorter waiting lists, more nurses, fox hunting, childrens centres, teaching assistants, surestart, cancer guarantee, smaller class sizes, equalities act, EMA. Also the fact that the tories are supported by James Caan, Simon Cowell, Rupert Murdoch while the Labour Party have Liz Dawn, Bill Bailey, Ross Kemp, Alan Davies, Eddie Izzard and Duncan Bannatyne. The tories are going to make cuts far too quick and their policy on cutting child tax credits while supporting the richest through inheritance tax are an absolute disgrace. For the last few weeks the only arguments from those voting tory have been based on their policy on an immigration cap... great in theory but they cant do anything about EU immigration and the majority of non EU immigration is for Dr's and nurses. The labour party may not be the same as they were but as a working class father I do very well with the changes the labour party have made and I know a lot of people who would be impoverished without tax credits and the national minimum wage (which labour say will be increased to £7 an hour in the next term if they get in) I like the sound of some of the measures to get people of benefits by the tories and they are very populist statements but like I said to Josie it also effects those who have always worked and been made redundant through no fault of their own. Their attack on the 'job tax' (NI increase) which has dominated their debates will cost people earning between 10 and 20k a year a mere £150k a year far less than if the tories lower the tax threshold for the lowest earners as has been suggested. SO in summary, no I didn't vote labour because I always have done, I voted labour because its the right thing to do. A tory government will be catastrophic for the working classes and any low to middle earners who have voted tory have shot theirselves in the foot, the majority of them don't know the policies but think Cameron has got a nice face. The Eton class are a despicable group of people and they always have been. The working classes will be hurt and hurt fast.

As you say "I don't criticise any one for voting in line with who represents their views the best." Neither do I but I will criticise people who vote without reading policies on the basis that the grass must always be greener on the other side.

[gpartin]

One more thing... BORIS JOHNSON

[j658]

I've been very clear this year that I am voting on policy 100%. The tories and lib dems were at a disadvantage by not telling me any pf their policies so I had to go with Tax credits, minimum wage, shorter waiting lists, more nurses, fox hunting, childrens centres, teaching assistants, surestart, cancer guarantee, smaller class sizes, equalities act, EMA. Also the fact that the tories are supported by James Caan, Simon Cowell, Rupert Murdoch while the Labour Party have Liz Dawn, Bill Bailey, Ross Kemp, Alan Davies, Eddie Izzard and Duncan Bannatyne. The tories are going to make cuts far too quick and their policy on cutting child tax credits while supporting the richest through inheritance tax are an absolute disgrace. For the last few weeks the only arguments from those voting tory have been based on their policy on an immigration cap... great in theory but they cant do anything about EU immigration and the majority of non EU immigration is for Dr's and nurses. The labour party may not be the same as they were but as a working class father I do very well with the changes the labour party have made and I know a lot of people who would be impoverished without tax credits and the national minimum wage (which labour say will be increased to £7 an hour in the next term if they get in) I like the sound of some of the measures to get people of benefits by the tories and they are very populist statements but like I said to Josie it also effects those who have always worked and been made redundant through no fault of their own. Their attack on the 'job tax' (NI increase) which has dominated their debates will cost people earning between 10 and 20k a year a mere £150k a year far less than if the tories lower the tax threshold for the lowest earners as has been suggested. SO in summary, no I didn't vote labour because I always have done, I voted labour because its the right thing to do. A tory government will be catastrophic for the working classes and any low to middle earners who have voted tory have shot theirselves in the foot, the majority of them don't know the policies but think Cameron has got a nice face. The Eton class are a despicable group of people and they always have been. The working classes will be hurt and hurt fast.

As you say "I don't criticise any one for voting in line with who represents their views the best." Neither do I but I will criticise people who vote without reading policies on the basis that the grass must always be greener on the other side.

Go GP!! POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!
Seriously though, I agree 100%.

[ancientnloyal]

A government that has gone through a recession, a leader not elected to the job, numerous wars and a long period in power and still not a majority government for the Tories. Yes we did have voters protesting against Labour and a higher turnout which meant large swings but it shows that the country doesn't really want a Tory government either.

Labour majority next election, new leader.


For now a coalition looks likely.

[jobo]

I voted for an independent in the Makerfield constituency who posted a leaflet through my door that I found interesting. Was toying with voting Tory (can't do any worse than Labour imo), but all 3 major party candidates live (and i presume originate from) nowhere near the Wigan area- Lib Dem = Liverpool, Labour = Warrington and Tory = Dewsbury. What in the world do they know about this area? (they probably use wikipedia for research ha).

I don't criticise any one for voting in line with who represents their views the best. However, I hate it when people vote in line with what 'they have always done'. I most commonly experience this with Labour people- the Labour party today is so far removed from the traditional Labour party it is untrue. Vote for who you agree with now at this present moment- not what they were 20/30/40 years ago.

Warrington isn't a million miles away from Wigan and the other candidates are at least from Northern working class areas, so I think your argument about them not being familiar with issues affecting a town like Wigan, is a bit flabby. As for you only experiencing labour people voting as they always have done, you want to try living down south. You could put a blue rosette on a donkey and they would vote for it.

As for toying with voting Tory, well, selfishness, elitism in education, Rugby Union, privatised health service, falling down schools, pensioners freezing to death, poll tax, the list is endless. Toy with thoughts about these issues.

[medlocke]

Only a matter of time before Gordon leaves number 10, can't wait, he was never our elected Prime Minister and after yesterday he still hasn't been chosen by the people, Labour Fails, about time we got rid of the lying cheating scum, a joint cabinet of Tories and Lib Dems will do more good than shoddy Labour.

[cpwigan]

Only a matter of time before Gordon leaves number 10, can't wait, he was never our elected Prime Minister and after yesterday he still hasn't been chosen by the people, Labour Fails, about time we got rid of the lying cheating scum, a joint cabinet of Tories and Lib Dems will do more good than shoddy Labour.

Oddly Medlocke is a good barometer for how people vote. Policy / truth rarely matter IMO and the longer a party is in power then the more likely they are to be removed.

I think all parties act in the same manner which renders Medlocke's views regarding corruption completely incorrect not that it matters and simply highlights how people for subjective inaccurate political viewpoints. Out of the 3, I would say Brown is the more trustworthy and the more volatile. On the whole trustworthy and politician is sadly an oxymoron. However, Labour have only themselves to blame and Brown carrys some of the burden here too in that they imploded from within by looking at self interest rather than the bigger picture. The Tories did likewise and handed Labour power.

Whomever is in power we face an incredibly difficult period. Brown to his credit steered a difficult course well. I personally voted Labour for him to carry that process on. I voted Independent Conservative in my council election because he was the only candidate who resided in the area.