Karl Pryce

[Matthew]

Whilst it is good that he hasn't been a Desi Williams sized disaster since he came back into the team; I am not holding my breath on him becoming a Wigan legend.

He's lost some weight and scored some tries - both things are promising; however he is some way off even being the the first choice cover for the wing.

I'm pleased that we are getting some return on our investment - him being able to do a job also gives the squad more depth; however I will be even more pleased when Amos returns and Pat goes back to the wing.

[BriH]

Well, one thing for sure, MM must think KP is doing something right!
But of course, he is the Coach, isn't he? A lot of "arm chair coaching" here and we are always right!

[DaveO]

Well, one thing for sure, MM must think KP is doing something right!
But of course, he is the Coach, isn't he? A lot of "arm chair coaching" here and we are always right!

If people trot out the "the coach is always right" was argument when it suits we may as well not have any discussions about any player at all.

The whole point of this place is because we are all armchair coaches.

Pryce has scored 8 tries in four games but 7 of them were against poor opposition. Now he can't be blamed for who he has had to play against and it's good for him he has had the chance to find his feat against such opposition but still has a lot to prove. A little perspective is required IMO and more games against better opposition will show us (and MM) if he will make the grade.

Dave

[RJ]

I am sorry but I find it difficult to find anything really positive to say about Pryce. His performances are well below the sort of standard we should expect,he seems to be injury prone and for a guy of his size he certainly doesn't punch his weight. The three tries he scored on Saturday could have been scored by my granny and the fourth he was bundled into touch before getting the ball down just in front of where I was sitting and how Allibert gave a try is beyond me. I would like to see him succeed but how long do we have to wait for him to perform? Ainscough is twice the prospect that Pryce is and we have him farmed out to Widnes where when I last saw him play he looked to have lost the enthusiasm he had when he scored. He has been poorly treated IMO and deserves his chance more than Pryce ever has.

[ancientnloyal]

I dont think Ainscough has been poorly treated... recent events have brought it upon himself... hence a ban and lacklustre performances for both wigan and castleford. Credit to Pryce he has taken his opportunities well and it seems he has eradicated a lot of errors from his game.

I remember his first appearance against Huddersfield at Magic, his first touch he knocked on i think and thought 'here we go'... but after that I dont think he has done much wrong.

The only thing for Pryce now is getting more involved with the plays and gaining metres in the tackle.

[weststand-rich]

Well, one thing for sure, MM must think KP is doing something right!
But of course, he is the Coach, isn't he? A lot of "arm chair coaching" here and we are always right!

I think you'll find I am always right. I don't do wrong! :sly:

[DaveO]

I dont think Ainscough has been poorly treated... recent events have brought it upon himself... hence a ban and lacklustre performances for both wigan and castleford.

Brought what upon himself? He got banned for a fight and we will have had and will have other players banned at some point. It should not be used as yet another stick to try and imply he is some sort of lost cause.

As to his performances over all the games he and Pryce have played for Wigan who has been the better player? It's not been Pryce yet for some reason Pryce is now being afforded the kind of benefit of the doubt Ainscough never got including people saying the walk-in tries are OK which was something used to suggest Ainscough wasn't that good!

Ainscough was poorly treated by Noble in contrast to how Pryce is being treated under MM. I am sure we all agree Pryce will get a fair crack of the whip under MM which is something Ainscough never got under Noble.

Pryce also doesn't qualify for dual registration and on past form (and due to returning from an long term injury) was never a loan prospect. He has been IMO fortunate he wasn't a loan prospect as he has got to stick around Wigan getting the benefit of the MM training regime full time whereas Ainscough and others have not had that luxury.

All Ainscough did was a make a sensational début compared to Pryce who has been poor when given the chance previously yet Pryce is the one who is getting the benefit of the doubt. I don't think it is unreasonable to say Ainscough is at least a bit unlucky to be in the situaion he is when a player like Pryce has things fall into place for him.

I remember his first appearance against Huddersfield at Magic, his first touch he knocked on i think and thought 'here we go'... but after that I dont think he has done much wrong.

He has yet to face any really good teams and as MM said the systems in place are allowing Pryce to score the tries.

He could turn into the player many think he ought ought to be but so could Ainscough and Ainscough gets far less leeway with some fans than Pryce does.

Dave

[Wigan_forever1985]

I think Ainscough's demise in public opinion can be attributed to Noble or at least he must share some of the blame. The reason i say this is noble's classic "duty of care" basically he took a red hot Ainsy out of the side, fans where baying for blood, in the time he was out the side he was idolised and built up into a wigan legend when he was still a developing talent. This meant by the time he got back on the field everyone expected 8 tries a match from him, he had some average games and people just gave up.

He still has time to become better but unfortuantly he doesn't seem to have strengthed his weak areas.

Back the subject in Pryce. Its hard to judge his progress really, i think he is doing a job but still is down the pecking order. He scored 4 tries they were walk-ins but you still need to catch them and put them down and not over-run your centre something many wingers do.

I would say both Pryce and Ainsy are still down the order in terms of being the best wingers at wigan. I would rather see goulding in the team than either of them a lad who has really upped his game.

Time will tell on both, i remember people raving about Stanton on here yet he's never made it out the championship its one thing having talent its another developing on it

[stjudes02]

Some of you need to get a grip!! Does it matter whos' scored the try's and how hard they was to score them?? The end of the day its the team we are supporting and the trys scored helped to the win and the win gave us another 2 points that kept us at the top of the heap. Pryce may well not be our best winger but he is our best option at the minute and i myself think that Madge is making the right descisions. Support the team and stop keep making petty arguments about peoples ability's and disabilitys.Fair play to pryce for scoring the try's even if they was easy. I aint his biggest fan but we are winning and under the current circumstances isnt a bad thing!!!!

[ancientnloyal]

his fourth try this time Thomas had hold of him, although way into touch. poor quality image i know.