Gleeson

[StarAndy]

My guess is that we will see Gleeson at Widnes or fitting double glazing with his dad....

Probably Widness though the double glazing game is dead.

[Themole]

I have read this thread with great interest and various other sites that CPwigan contributes.

I have to say this individual is clearly someone divulging information from a known source in the club or someone I would personally class as a stalker.

Your interest in Mr Gleeson is clearly unhealthy and and needs some analysis from a professional. I find it very disconcerting that comments relating to Mr Gleeson with particular emphasis in relation to activity around his home would in many instances concern both the law and the family. I suggest you refrain from your unsubstantiated comments and stick to supporting your club, not your self interest.

[Themole]

The mole is needing a response from cpwigan for reasons of self interest.

[cpwigan]

Let me see; everything I have said is true, everything comes from impeccable sources, several involved with Gleeson outside Wigan RL. Not one source, several.

I know far more than I ever post. I feel sorry for Joe Gleeson, Martin Gleeson let him and everybody else (every Wigan fan) down.

If it upsets a few individuals tough.

If I was Martin Gleeson, what people say on the internet would be the least of my worrys. When the biggest heavys in Wigan will not get involved or touch money offered then you know just how bad the people you are dealing with are.

[Themole]

I fear a contradiction or just plain hypocrisy. " I feel sorry for Joe Gleeson" but you post conjecture and rumour and yes sometimes may be the truth based on your impeccable sources??- but you fail to comprehend the impact of your comments on Martins Grandfather and Family.

You no doubt spend a lot of time finding out what you could post on here that you have given no thought at all to whether you should.

Take it from this source, I have read your posts and I can tell all on this site that you are wrong in most things you say, but hey what does it matter you can now all celebrate the fact that a known drug abuser and one that received a two year ban is back to swell the ranks of the Wigan team, are you now going to persecute him.

One last point many things are said on this site about the behaviour of players and how disgusted all are in how they behave, however the hypocrisy was tangible when Terry Newton tragically died, based on his history and known involvement in drugs,it was all quickly forgotton with false tears and sentiments.

[cpwigan]

Sorry but everything that was said happened. You can pretend it did not but it did. Lots remain private.

I / no fan let Joe Gleeson down. One person did.

Most fans know / are open about other players history. As far as Terry goes some do / some don't but the man is dead. Re Hypocrisy, apparently you are angry if anything is said about Martin Gleeson but happy to post stuff about others.

Hypocritical?

[ancientnloyal]

Jesus said:

"Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye." (Matthew 7:1-5 RSV)

[Kittwazzer]

Jesus wept. (John 11:35)

[Themole]

I only make the point relating to the returning player and Terry Newton on the basis that when it suits people to have a go they do it- but when its not that politically correct they dont- I am not defending Martin Gleeson, I am making the clear point that sometimes in my opinion you have gone to far which is easy to do when their is no chance you can be taken to account for it.

AS I said sometimes you think ,not could I post any point I want, but Should I,particularly when their is nothing to gain personally from what you put on here, but the implications of what you put are far more wide reaching than you or any one else ever consider, for that matter making observations for example about what you or others have seen outside Martins home- That is disconcerting to me never mind family members.

I cannot see why you should not understand that and others like you who hide behind this type of medium.

[cpwigan]

First and foremost I have never said anything about Gleeson's house etc or any of his family member's houses. So take that up with somebody else.

Every member of the media, many respected figures thinks the silence has led to far more conjecture than if Wigan?Gleeson had been upfront. SECRECY is a bad thing. Moreover, why should Wigan fans not know the truth and judge for themselves. If it hurts/upsets 1 person and their family rather than 000's of Wigan fans who might feel duped / confused / agry then I know where I stand.

I PMed you if you wanted to discuss this via PM. You chose not to so are prolonging and creating the problem you are supposedly against and with your log in name I hope you realise how contrary you appear.