The Hock Influence

[josie andrews]

Think the word you are both looking for is "naive"

[weststand-rich]

I need a spullchocker Josie.

To be fair to the players and Hocky they all did seem genuinely pleased when he came on the pitch, so I do actually believe the players sentiments here. But I know that when he was banned a specific player was not impressed. He thought Hock had let them all down, dropped them in the sh*te at a key point in the season and was trouble. Do you read, or are you likely to read a player from our team making a quoted comment like that? No. Because it deviates from the clubs position which is to concede and move on.

What aggrevates me beyond belief is the constant ghost-written nothingness that gets spouted out as press releses from sports clubs. Wigan are no worse than any other club, but the bland vanilla, fencesitting of media-trained players hitting straight bats gets me down. Watch an end of match interview? Find one without the phrases:

- The lads worked hard in training all week
- We dug deep
- We showed a lot of character
- (For aussies) I'm just loving my footie at the minute.

Take this from Man Utd when Wayne Rooney told the TV cameras to F off:

Speaking to ManUtd.com, Wayne said: "I want to apologise for any offence that may have been caused by my goal celebration, especially to any parents or children that were watching.

"Emotions were running high and on reflection my heat of the moment reaction was inappropriate, it was not aimed at anyone in particular."

It's meaningless. He doesn't speak like that, doesn't have the vocabulary and was obviuously written by someone in the PR office. He can barely read half of it let alone write any of it.

[Exiled Wiganer]

I don't care whether he is popular, only if he makes a positive contribution to the team. We are in a fortunate position in that we have 4 winnable games before Wire in the cup, and we should all know by then whether he is genuinely worth his place. It's a great story, but the emotion should not cloud people's judgement.

[cpwigan]

When you play sport and you think somebody can help you be better and win something then trust me you are happy to see that player at your club.

If you are a collection of excellent players then competition for places spurs you on to play even better every week.

On both counts Hock scores a huge plus.

[josie andrews]

I need a spullchocker Josie.

[TrueBlueWarrior]

I need a spullchocker Josie.

To be fair to the players and Hocky they all did seem genuinely pleased when he came on the pitch, so I do actually believe the players sentiments here. But I know that when he was banned a specific player was not impressed. He thought Hock had let them all down, dropped them in the sh*te at a key point in the season and was trouble. Do you read, or are you likely to read a player from our team making a quoted comment like that? No. Because it deviates from the clubs position which is to concede and move on.

What aggrevates me beyond belief is the constant ghost-written nothingness that gets spouted out as press releses from sports clubs. Wigan are no worse than any other club, but the bland vanilla, fencesitting of media-trained players hitting straight bats gets me down. Watch an end of match interview? Find one without the phrases:

- The lads worked hard in training all week
- We dug deep
- We showed a lot of character
- (For aussies) I'm just loving my footie at the minute.

Take this from Man Utd when Wayne Rooney told the TV cameras to F off:

Speaking to ManUtd.com, Wayne said: "I want to apologise for any offence that may have been caused by my goal celebration, especially to any parents or children that were watching.

"Emotions were running high and on reflection my heat of the moment reaction was inappropriate, it was not aimed at anyone in particular."

It's meaningless. He doesn't speak like that, doesn't have the vocabulary and was obviuously written by someone in the PR office. He can barely read half of it let alone write any of it.

To be fair WR I completely understand what your saying, but the point of the original thread or debate was simply about Hock and his influence on the team and how the rest of the lads perceived him and like I have already said from the game Saturday it looks like they all (well at least the other 16 on duty) had nothing but open arms for him, which at the end of the day can only be good for WIGAN WARRIORS and that is all that matters to us all.

[TrueBlueWarrior]

Think the word you are both looking for is "naive"

Oi behave Josie, I know how to spell naive and that is why I spelt it the same as WR, with the smiley after it but I know you won't believe that!!

And to jump to the defence of WR, I think you made a mistake on this forum not so long back hmmmmmmm? Lol!!

[Kittwazzer]

Think the word you are both looking for is "naive"

Oi behave Josie, I know how to spell naive and that is why I spelt it the same as WR, with the smiley after it but I know you won't believe that!!

And to jump to the defence of WR, I think you made a mistake on this forum not so long back hmmmmmmm? Lol!!

If you're going to nitpick, allow me to join in.

The correct spelling is actually naïve (with dieresis over the "i" to indicate separate vowel pronunciation)!

[TrueBlueWarrior]

Think the word you are both looking for is "naive"

Oi behave Josie, I know how to spell naive and that is why I spelt it the same as WR, with the smiley after it but I know you won't believe that!!

And to jump to the defence of WR, I think you made a mistake on this forum not so long back hmmmmmmm? Lol!!

If you're going to nitpick, allow me to join in.

The correct spelling is actually naïve (with dieresis over the "i" to indicate separate vowel pronunciation)!

Oooooooooh get you KW!

[josie andrews]

Oi behave Josie, I know how to spell naive and that is why I spelt it the same as WR, with the smiley after it but I know you won't believe that!!

And to jump to the defence of WR, I think you made a mistake on this forum not so long back hmmmmmmm? Lol!!

If you're going to nitpick, allow me to join in.

The correct spelling is actually naïve (with dieresis over the "i" to indicate separate vowel pronunciation)!

Oooooooooh get you KW!

Well I hadn't got diaeresis & as we are not in France (thank God) I don't think it actually matters BTW you missed the 'a' out of diaeresis

Naive is a French loanword, an adjective which means having or showing a lack of experience, understanding or sophistication; in early use, it meant natural or innocent, and did not connote ineptitude. As a French word, quoted in English, it is italicized and spelled naïve or naïf (French adjectives have grammatical gender; naïf is used with masculine nouns); the dots above the i are a diaeresis (see also Ï). As an unitalicized English word, "naive" is now the more usual spelling,[1] although "naïve" is unidiomatic rather than incorrect; "naif" often represents the French masculine, but has a secondary meaning as an artistic style. "Naive" is now normally pronounced as two syllables, with the stress on the second, in the French manner.
The noun form can be written naivety, naïvety, naïveté, naïvete, or naiveté.

Take that & party