Joel to Union

cpwigan · Post by **cpwigan** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:43 pm

Latest I have is that the deal is not cut and dry YET. Joel will go provided Wigan and Saracens can agree a compensation package.

Fujiman · Post by **Fujiman** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:04 pm

cpwigan wrote:Latest I have is that the deal is not cut and dry YET. Joel will go provided Wigan and Saracens can agree a compensation package.

Have they got any players that could come the other way as part of the deal? Say a Farrell jnr?

shaunedwardsfanclub · Post by **shaunedwardsfanclub** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:08 pm

cpwigan wrote:Latest I have is that the deal is not cut and dry YET. Joel will go provided Wigan and Saracens can agree a compensation package.

CP- thanks for the update. That may be the current word from the club, but if Joel has made his mind up then it will happen. There is no way IFL is going to hang on to an unhappy player it is simply a case of how much he can get for him. A down payment plus other payments linked to Joel's success may be the best way forward.

We need to make plans for next year and therefore a deal needs to be concluded sooner rather than later - we will be desperate to find a centre from somewhere!

My worry here is why are players, who have progressed through our junior system, wanting to get away. Is it money or some other underlying issue? I could understand why Freddie would want to leave due to the lack of first team opportunities and Bridge going to the Wire to pair up with his brother but I find this episode baffling!

shaunedwardsfanclub · Post by **shaunedwardsfanclub** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:09 pm

Fujiman wrote:
cpwigan wrote:Latest I have is that the deal is not cut and dry YET. Joel will go provided Wigan and Saracens can agree a compensation package.
Have they got any players that could come the other way as part of the deal? Say a Farrell jnr?

We can't afford him!

jaws1 · Post by **jaws1** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:14 pm

shaunedwardsfanclub wrote:
cpwigan wrote:Latest I have is that the deal is not cut and dry YET. Joel will go provided Wigan and Saracens can agree a compensation package.
CP- thanks for the update. That may be the current word from the club, but if Joel has made his mind up then it will happen. There is no way IFL is going to hang on to an unhappy player it is simply a case of how much he can get for him. A down payment plus other payments linked to Joel's success may be the best way forward.

We need to make plans for next year and therefore a deal needs to be concluded sooner rather than later - we will be desperate to find a centre from somewhere!

My worry here is why are players, who have progressed through our junior system, wanting to get away. Is it money or some other underlying issue? I could understand why Freddie would want to leave due to the lack of first team opportunities and Bridge going to the Wire to pair up with his brother but I find this episode baffling!

Could it not be the mindless booing of his brother Sam thats tipped the scales for both of them.???

ancientnloyal · Post by **ancientnloyal** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:14 pm

And so the decline of our game continues. Saddening watching it happen knowing nothing is going to be done about it.

shaunedwardsfanclub · Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:19 pm

jaws1 wrote:
shaunedwardsfanclub wrote:
cpwigan wrote:Latest I have is that the deal is not cut and dry YET. Joel will go provided Wigan and Saracens can agree a compensation package.
CP- thanks for the update. That may be the current word from the club, but if Joel has made his mind up then it will happen. There is no way IFL is going to hang on to an unhappy player it is simply a case of how much he can get for him. A down payment plus other payments linked to Joel's success may be the best way forward.

We need to make plans for next year and therefore a deal needs to be concluded sooner rather than later - we will be desperate to find a centre from somewhere!

My worry here is why are players, who have progressed through our junior system, wanting to get away. Is it money or some other underlying issue? I could understand why Freddie would want to leave due to the lack of first team opportunities and Bridge going to the Wire to pair up with his brother but I find this episode baffling!

Could it not be the mindless booing of his brother Sam thats tipped the scales for both of them.???

That should have no bearing at all. Giz got booed for the whole of his career and what did he do? He rammed it down their throats! This is about money in my view and I can't blame him.

Nezza Faz · Post by **Nezza Faz** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:22 am

Can't see if Saracens can make it financially sustainable to sign up Sam/Joel long-term?

They are the RU Champions of England but can only get 5,000 fans at home games, as they had last week. They are actually planning to move grounds to a SMALLER stadium.

In these days when money is tight, it doesn't add up long-term when balancing your books, plus any Transfer fees on top of their wages.

Plus, the game is very different to League - can't see them fitting in with a forward -orientated, kick-a-thon where the ball is out of play for lengthy spells.

yoda warrior · Post by **yoda warrior** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:32 am

Nezza Faz wrote:
Plus, the game is very different to League - can't see them fitting in with a forward -orientated, kick-a-thon where the ball is out of play for lengthy spells.

Would you not have said the same about Chris Ashton and Jason Robinson?

BigJeffLima · Post by **BigJeffLima** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:55 pm

Hope this is not true, what ive read on here im beggining to think it is true, is the joel deal goes through were does it leave sam, i cant see sam staying on at wigan unfortunately

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