Matty Smith - Scrum Half Problem Solved?

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saints got rid of gary connolly and mickey higham so maybe there loss again
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29wes28 wrote:Good signing IMO, compare him to Tommy when we 1st got him and Matty is better compare them now and they are very similar types of players but Tommy is more complete, a season or 2 at Wigan and Matty will be 1 of the best 7's in the country.
It will not be hard to be one of the best, cos there are no good ones about.
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cow yeds wrote:
29wes28 wrote:Good signing IMO, compare him to Tommy when we 1st got him and Matty is better compare them now and they are very similar types of players but Tommy is more complete, a season or 2 at Wigan and Matty will be 1 of the best 7's in the country.
It will not be hard to be one of the best, cos there are no good ones about.
Surely that tells you how hard the position is to play then and when I'm right and people are saying what a good signing he is we can appreciate him for his skills and ability rather than labelling him a saints reject.
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cow yeds wrote:Personally I think it's a panic buy.
If he's the best in our game it tells me that we are watching a deteriating game.
He can't play in the cup.
After the exiles game there were negative comments on this site about him.
He's been at Saints is it twice? they didn't want him.
Now we think he's the best thing since sliced bread.
I don't think he's as good as Brough.

Rant over :smil:
We had a rant about Finch at one point,,remember?.... :eh:
Let's give him a chance...come on we are better than this.

P s had a lump in my throat when the last post was played
at the Leeds game...omg I could hardly breathe....just electric.....
does anyone know the significance of this piece of music?
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We had a rant about Finch at one point,,remember?.... :eh:
Let's give him a chance...come on we are better than this.

P s had a lump in my throat when the last post was played
at the Leeds game...omg I could hardly breathe....just electric.....
does anyone know the significance of this piece of music?[/quote]

Hope this helps.

The "Last Post" call (2nd Post) is used in British Army camps to signal the end of the day when the duty officer returns from the tour of the camp and quarters. The call "First Post" is used to mark the start of the inspection. The name derives from the practice of inspecting all the sentry posts around such a camp at the end of the day, and playing a call at each of them. The "Last Post" was thus the last point of this inspection, and the call signalling that this post had been inspected marked the end of the military day.
In addition to its normal garrison use, the Last Post call had another function at the close of a day of battle. It signalled to those who were still out and wounded or separated that the fighting was done, and to follow the sound of the call to find safety and rest. Its use in Remembrance Day ceremonies in Commonwealth nations has two generally unexpressed purposes: The first is an implied summoning of the spirits of the Fallen to the cenotaph, the second is to symbolically end the day so that the period of silence before the Rouse is blown becomes in effect a ritualized night vigil.
This custom dates from at least the 17th century, and originated with British troops stationed in The Netherlands, where it drew on an older Dutch custom, called taptoe, from which comes the term Tattoo as in Military tattoo, and also the term Taps, q.v.. The taptoe was also used to signal the end of the day, but has more prosaic origin. Taptoe originated signalling the moment that beer taps had to be shut, hence that the day had ended. It comes from the Dutch phrase Doe den tap toe, meaning "Turn the tap off": however the Dutch "Taptoe" bugle call Taptoesignaal, now used for remembrance events, is not the same tune as the Last Post. Neither Last Post nor Taptoesignaal is to be confused with the US call "Taps", which has a similar function but different tune and origin.
The "Last Post" was used by British forces in North America in colonial times, but its function was taken over in the United States by "Taps", which has been used by the United States Army since 1862.
[edit]Memorial usage



Memorial Stained Glass window, Class of 1934, Royal Military College of Canada showing Officer Cadet playing the Bugle call for Last Post or The Rouse.
During the 19th century, the "Last Post" was also carried to the various countries of the British Empire. In all these countries it has been incorporated into military funerals, where it is played as a final farewell, symbolising the fact that the duty of the dead soldier is over and that they can rest in peace.
"Last Post" is used in public ceremonials commemorating the war dead, particularly on Remembrance Day in the Commonwealth of Nations. In Australia and New Zealand it is also played on Anzac Day usually before the two-minute silence, which concludes with the rouse.
When the post is played during services such as Anzac Day it is required of all current serving military members to salute for the duration of the call. During services organised by the Royal British Legion the recommendation is that no salute is given by either officers or troops as during the "Last Post" and Silence the recommendation is that all troops will have removed head dress (as in church service prayer), have heads bowed, weapons inverted, with flags and standards lowered.
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Still brings a certain feeling to me even after hearing it every night for 5 years.
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cow yeds wrote:Still brings a certain feeling to me even after hearing it every night for 5 years.
Like exile says, the Yanks use Taps entirely different to ours. But a similar meaning.
Not as poignant as the Last Post.

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Wow brilliant description of the Last Post exile,thanks for that,it's such
a simple piece of music yet so powerful.
Whenever I hear it I have to stop what I'm doing,and as
I said I can hardly breathe or move...
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Smith was an excellent player technically at Saints. However, Saints backed Eastmond which went pearshaped. Saints tried to re-sign Smith but we got him.

Smith needed to take the line on more. Long has developed that in his game at Salford.

Why not give the guy a chance?

Powell is still here. He could play alongside him. Mellor post injury seems on his way out. Smith has a 3 year contract which gives Williams / Hampshire the time they probably need.
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cpwigan wrote:Smith was an excellent player technically at Saints. However, Saints backed Eastmond which went pearshaped. Saints tried to re-sign Smith but we got him.

Smith needed to take the line on more. Long has developed that in his game at Salford.

Why not give the guy a chance?

Powell is still here. He could play alongside him. Mellor post injury seems on his way out. Smith has a 3 year contract which gives Williams / Hampshire the time they probably need.
He signed for us cos money talks. From what i can gather when he's not playing he watches Saints home & away, he's always been a supporter.
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