Will wwf ever recover?
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highland convert
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Will wwf ever recover?
I keep looking in but elements within this site have killed it. The fun posters have moved on. Topics like the worst players ever signed make the bulk of the topics. The site is dead in the water. Even close season there would be thirty on line at any time. Now double figures is unlikely. I cannot see it improving when the season kicks off. The trash talkers have forced out those that just enjoy the game. For years this site has mocked the other one. Now we get posts cross posted cos the sites are indistinguishable withe the same posters using both, except they are now the busier site. As I am not re signing for sky sports, this site will be my main sorce of info. Hopefully the talkers will be back to tell o h enjoyment rather than leaving it to the self appointed experts. Please, Mike, sort out the site direction because it is well off he rails, jim
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Posts like this must do the site a load of good!?!?!
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Kiwiseddon
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I know what you mean Wes but I actually think someone needed to say it.29wes28 wrote:Posts like this must do the site a load of good!?!?!
These days, there are a lot of posts and threads that are just an excuse for some posters to flex their literary muscles and it just becomes a battle of wills.
If you post something telling the nay sayers to shut it, you're told that this site is a place for debate and that everyone is entitled to their opinion and if you post something critical of the club or a player, you become that said nay sayer and are equally criticised for being so.
I find that a lot of the time, regardless of the thread, it's the same people having the same debates and it's their opinion that's being analysed to the n'th degree despite it having little or nothing to do with WRLFC.
Don't get me wrong, there are several posters I respect but when they answer a query to which they will be right about it, they then undergo questions debating their stance from all and sundry. It just all gets a bit boring.
I still think that there are sufficient good posters to keep this site a healthy and interesting place to browse. What I would say is that it's not the site it used to be. It's lost its sense of humour for me and all become rather serious.
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Fair point kiwi however the beauty of opinion is that no one is right and they differ so to keep threads going people should post their own regardless of it being similar to what's allready been stated. As for the sense of humour can't argue their mate it does seem to have evaporated.
Also it doesn't help that it's ghost quiet, I can't even pull any fresh rumours regarding other clubs which is frustrating as surely something must be happening.
Also it doesn't help that it's ghost quiet, I can't even pull any fresh rumours regarding other clubs which is frustrating as surely something must be happening.
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Don't blame the site, or even the posters. Its a symptom of a world where antagonism is glorified as news and self-satisfaction is held as more important than community.
We just need to bite our tongue (or our fingers I suppose) where we can. We need to try and avoid becoming someone boring who tends to use every thread as an outlet for their one overriding opinion about a player / the club / the RFL / the sport etc. We need to remember to react to the information or opinion stated in a post, rather than to the poster themselves. We need to stop accusing all new posters of being trolls and we need to stop calling each other stupid just because we think what they have written is stupid. We also need to learn to admit when we've made a mistake, or admit that another opinion is equally deserving of being made, even if we think its nonsense. We're all capable of such things. We have it inside us.
But remember, there are people who use this site that embody community spirit and the like in how these forums work - and as long as we have people like Josie (and others at other times) this site won't die. The rest of us just need to back those people up more with our own actions I guess.
We just need to bite our tongue (or our fingers I suppose) where we can. We need to try and avoid becoming someone boring who tends to use every thread as an outlet for their one overriding opinion about a player / the club / the RFL / the sport etc. We need to remember to react to the information or opinion stated in a post, rather than to the poster themselves. We need to stop accusing all new posters of being trolls and we need to stop calling each other stupid just because we think what they have written is stupid. We also need to learn to admit when we've made a mistake, or admit that another opinion is equally deserving of being made, even if we think its nonsense. We're all capable of such things. We have it inside us.
But remember, there are people who use this site that embody community spirit and the like in how these forums work - and as long as we have people like Josie (and others at other times) this site won't die. The rest of us just need to back those people up more with our own actions I guess.
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Couldn't agree more, I'm not a regular poster but every time I put something on about not being negative and just enjoying the rugby I just seem to get derided. It's soul destroying to be honest after all I can get all the info on this site from the official warriors website. So this site should be about fans having a good banter. Ok there are problems but lets not get bogged down with them. Anyway if its the same people posting the same "I know it all" rubbish I will move on also I'm afraid, it's a shame really as I'm sure the people who run this site put a lot of hard work in.
I was going to buy a book called "The Power of Positive Thinking", and then I thought: What good would that do?
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:eusa2: I think a few people Jim who fell for your NY Day post.
N.B relatively new posters Jim whines and moans ad infinitum. He has been declaring doom on this site since he virtually began posting in 2006. A few posters and I mean A FEW massaged his ego and he likes it to be stroked regularly. Look at his thread creation over the last 12 months / 2 years. Even longer if you wish. For every one of Jims 'friends' a Ron Doran comes along and keeps this site and other site healthy. Personally I find Jims attitude to new regulars downright insulting.
Some suggestions to people
There are a few sections to this forum. Create a thread, two threads, three threads etc etc Unless you actually try to create threads, post then how will you know or be able to say anything!
A big CAVEAT though. A forum is a place for people to express opinions, just like a letters page in a newspaper. People ARE FREE to be POSTIVE AND/OR NEGATIVE. It is a free world provided you do not print / express views likely to create legal repurcussions. If you want to be positive and somebody expresses a negative view TOUGH. Likewisr if you want to be negative and somebody expresses a positive view TOUGH. IIRC, Alan created a thread on fixtures and criticised the first 2 replys INCL THE SITE OWNER because they dared to be negative, dared to express a different opinion to his. Argue the toss but just because somebody has a different opinion TOUGH. The one caveat when somebody is clearly a 'NUT' then what comes their way is slightly different.
Now get posting!! stop whining!! Too busy myself bar this reply BUT some have lots of time, no excuses. Do remember it is the close season. Do remember EVERY human being finds it easier to be negative rather than positive, HUMAN NATURE. Do remember people worry about the things they enjoy and hold dear most
BUT
Unless you get off your backsides and make threads, posts you are doing nothing but whining and part of the problem you supposedly loathe.
P.S This site is the same as every other forum site on the net.
A few thoughts to ponder. Worryingly football is increasingly more entertaining than RL. An alternative stance you could endorse Wood who controls this sport and say how fantastic RL is. The answer between the two is probably somewhere in the middle BTW IMO.
UNTIL YOU CREATE THREADS, POSTS you cannot really say something with great authority :sigh:
N.B relatively new posters Jim whines and moans ad infinitum. He has been declaring doom on this site since he virtually began posting in 2006. A few posters and I mean A FEW massaged his ego and he likes it to be stroked regularly. Look at his thread creation over the last 12 months / 2 years. Even longer if you wish. For every one of Jims 'friends' a Ron Doran comes along and keeps this site and other site healthy. Personally I find Jims attitude to new regulars downright insulting.
Some suggestions to people
There are a few sections to this forum. Create a thread, two threads, three threads etc etc Unless you actually try to create threads, post then how will you know or be able to say anything!A big CAVEAT though. A forum is a place for people to express opinions, just like a letters page in a newspaper. People ARE FREE to be POSTIVE AND/OR NEGATIVE. It is a free world provided you do not print / express views likely to create legal repurcussions. If you want to be positive and somebody expresses a negative view TOUGH. Likewisr if you want to be negative and somebody expresses a positive view TOUGH. IIRC, Alan created a thread on fixtures and criticised the first 2 replys INCL THE SITE OWNER because they dared to be negative, dared to express a different opinion to his. Argue the toss but just because somebody has a different opinion TOUGH. The one caveat when somebody is clearly a 'NUT' then what comes their way is slightly different.
Now get posting!! stop whining!! Too busy myself bar this reply BUT some have lots of time, no excuses. Do remember it is the close season. Do remember EVERY human being finds it easier to be negative rather than positive, HUMAN NATURE. Do remember people worry about the things they enjoy and hold dear most
BUT
Unless you get off your backsides and make threads, posts you are doing nothing but whining and part of the problem you supposedly loathe.
P.S This site is the same as every other forum site on the net.
A few thoughts to ponder. Worryingly football is increasingly more entertaining than RL. An alternative stance you could endorse Wood who controls this sport and say how fantastic RL is. The answer between the two is probably somewhere in the middle BTW IMO.
UNTIL YOU CREATE THREADS, POSTS you cannot really say something with great authority :sigh:
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wiganwarriordave
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My tuppence. Posts like this are the exact reason I'm more of a reader, rather than contributer here. I agree, forums are for expression of opinions and healthy debate. However WWF forums is more for unhealthy straight criticism and as above insulting and belittling of other users, which ultimately just deters people from posting in and starting new threads. Myself included.cpwigan wrote: :eusa2: I think a few people Jim who fell for your NY Day post.
N.B relatively new posters Jim whines and moans ad infinitum. He has been declaring doom on this site since he virtually began posting in 2006. A few posters and I mean A FEW massaged his ego and he likes it to be stroked regularly.
Some of the hardcore committed contributers like Josie are a real credit to the Wigan club, this site and the RL community (both online and in the flesh). The insider info, actual "from the horses mouth" chats with players etc are excellent. There are however too many on here who are out purely to kick up a stink and argue their opinion at every opportunity. Frankly, it's not enjoyable to contribute at all.
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Cpwigan if your reply is referring to me please tell me were I criticised the site owner or anyone else for that matter my reply to the fixtures thread was pure exasperation at all the negativity.. By the way why put site owner in capitals his he exempt from any criticism? Like I keep saying debate is healthy but let's not let constant negativity bog us down.
I was going to buy a book called "The Power of Positive Thinking", and then I thought: What good would that do?
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Personally I will continue to visit this forum perhaps making the odd reply or maybe make a sarcastic comment after considering a certain post I may not like.This is a forum in which people voice opinion some of which we may not agree with and some we will applaud. That's the whole purpose of a forum.I do agree though that sometimes people do get personal and often forget that this is a forum intended to discuss all things rugby.And not a forum to hurl insults just because we happen to disagree with the other persons opinion.And I think that purely because it is the close season and the fact that we as a club have not made any major signings makes our upcoming season less of a talking point than it should otherwise be.You have a choice of sticking with this site or moving on.But the mere fact of the matter is that you chose to come on here and voice your opinion must mean that you desired others to read it.Well Jim I have read your post and decided that you are just an attention seeking person who should just accept the fact that not everyone will or does agree with you.If you do choose to use other forums to make your voice heard I'm sure you will eventually recognize that this is indeed a genuine forum giving you leave to your voice opinions! The choice is your Jim stay or go.I would rather you stayed with us but I along with others will not massage your ego by just agreeing with all that you might say.