The biggest failing of Wane

[devon jim 1]

for the avoidance of doubt my last post was directed to CP

[thegimble]

Reply to DaveO: Not going to quote it all.

I agree with Jobo there is no way that a manager of a club could want to sell his best player. Like every business going the Manager is left week after week trying to put a spin on it whilst the owner hides in his room. And knowing IL he will come out once he has anything positive to try and do a damage limitation exercise as he does.

As for game plan he does play too much of getting the ball wide quickly especially in close games especially Friday night when the weather is not suited to it.

But when you Miss Flower (for me our best prop this season) Mossop, Taylor, Lauaki and Prescott its going to be tough taking on most front rows in Super League especially on a short turn around. Wether he changes when they return is another matter.

[thegimble]

I agree with you entirely in your last post. So let me say I support SW's decisions because I trust him and further he is in a better position than we fans to make team decisions. Yes the forum is here for us to express our opinions and I must say that I have learned a lot frm Dave O, your good self and Kitt Wazzer. I live a distance from Wigan. I love the club and would not wish to detract from any opinion expressed nor castigate those I don't agree with. I apologise to Dave if I have caused offence. His Knowledge is greater than mine. In my defence this forum is the only means of keeping in touch with our great game. all the best to tou all

Remember Knowledge is power and DaveO is all Power.
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[DaveO]

Depends if Wane is complicit in players leaving or not. He was only too keen to tell us Sam was going to leave. I think Wane has unrealistic expectations of some players which may mean when IL says he will sell Sam Wane says OK we can cope

You couldn't be more wrong here Dave. He's got to remain positive, even if his best player is leaving. He should be congratulated for holding things together so well despite the uncertainty surrounding the squad at the moment.

I don't think he handled this right at all. He needn't have said anything. Just another example of his poor media skills IMO.

[DaveO]

I apologise to Dave if I have caused offence.

No apology required as no offence was taken.

[DaveO]

But when you Miss Flower (for me our best prop this season) Mossop, Taylor, Lauaki and Prescott its going to be tough taking on most front rows in Super League especially on a short turn around. Wether he changes when they return is another matter.

With a bit of luck we will "do a Bradford" when they won it from third a few years ago. They had a nightmare season with injuries but got a lot of top players back when it mattered (and Leeds and Saints lost key players at that time to make things better for Bradford).

In the meantime we have to see how Wanes copes in adversity but I am not confident about that. As a result we could do as we did last year and end up fighting for top spot in the last weeks of the season and go tired again into the play offs.

[cpwigan]

Reply to DaveO: Not going to quote it all.

I agree with Jobo there is no way that a manager of a club could want to sell his best player. Like every business going the Manager is left week after week trying to put a spin on it whilst the owner hides in his room. And knowing IL he will come out once he has anything positive to try and do a damage limitation exercise as he does.

As for game plan he does play too much of getting the ball wide quickly especially in close games especially Friday night when the weather is not suited to it.

But when you Miss Flower (for me our best prop this season) Mossop, Taylor, Lauaki and Prescott its going to be tough taking on most front rows in Super League especially on a short turn around. Wether he changes when they return is another matter.

Gimble, the problem with that theory is yes the team will improve when the best players return BUT it almost become irrelevant offensively which prop are playing under Wane. Wane talk the talk re running hard and strong but our props rarely get the opportunity to do so when they should be and when it truly matters, inside our own half and the first 20 of the opposition half. Props want the ball direct, flat and ASAP. Our best props are suffering according to many (check the Mossop thread on Rlfans). IMO we pass too many times in our own half, run far too many 2nd man plays in our own far particularly close to the POTB. What happened to wearing down opposition props by 'zig zag' the plays to make their props tackle twice in a set etc. Our is a game about field position gained by yardage plays to the point you destroy opposing teams in the first 20 minutes / half. Madge had our teams playing that perfectly. Wane should have understood everything he was taught / witnessed. Yet he does not. Instead, he openly said I will do it my way and my way will be better. Remember, this is a player who wanted to play it his way (super tough) but would not train his body properly to do so (John Monies Iceman Autobiography). Far too many fans give Wane the ability to walk on water because he is a Wiganer. Stuff that garbage and I'm a Wiganer!

Remember the Play Offs / GF tends to be played during a period of poor weather. Wanes World does not function in the wet. Our best chance is Wembley if we can get there and it stays dry.

The lateral utopian bullshit espoused by Schofield and Wane is the reason those damn Aussies have been handing us our asses for decades.

I agree re IL BUT Wane is a pushover for IL. IL says jump and Wane says how high Ian. Madge stood up to IL and if he wanted something he got it.

[Kittwazzer]

In the meantime we have to see how Wanes copes in adversity but I am not confident about that. As a result we could do as we did last year and end up fighting for top spot in the last weeks of the season and go tired again into the play offs.

Like we did in Madge's last season when he'd gone all out for the CC?

[Owd Codger]

The first home defeat of the season and the thread is dominated as usual by the same two swiping at the Coach with the same old opinions.

Becoming a obsession with the pair of them!

[cpwigan]

The first home defeat of the season and the thread is dominated as usual by the same two swiping at the Coach with the same old opinions.

Becoming a obsession with the pair of them!

I think we all know who is obsessed with Dave and I Mike it is okay for you to come out in public.

Contributing some interesting posts would be nice too