Wigan RLFC Wave The White Flag

[Owd Codger]

I'm not sure where you get this 99% don't want to improve consistency.

I'd say based on the postings here that 99% *agree with you* that consistency needs to be improved. What they *disagree* about is the tactics.

Once again you only see what you want - which is getting to be some distance from reality. I'm concerned.

If 99% on here do agree with him, it is only showing that a minority opinion rules the roost!

[Panchitta Marra]

CP what the hell did you expect how can you defend the action of Flower , his stupidity lost us the game mov eon

I work on one of UK's biggest construction sites and spoken to many Rugby League fans and while most have the opinion that Ben Flowers actions has spoiled as what they perceive as a family game sporting event, they have also said that the media coverage was focused solely on his actions with the majority of neutrals asking why Hohia's offence was almost totally disregarded.
I accept what you say regarding Ben Flowers actions, but his wasn't the only action that lost us the game as the match should have been played 12 v 12. That isnt just my opinion by the way. A couple of guys I spoke to are referees, albeit in the local amateur game and both concluded that Hohia's was a sending off offence.
Flower has been stupid, is now taking his punishment as accepted by him, WWRLFC, the RFL and other clubs in SL.
Saint Helens take home a trophy by default on the failings of officials to monitor the full incident and take appropriate actions.

[TrueBlueWarrior]

CP what the hell did you expect how can you defend the action of Flower , his stupidity lost us the game mov eon

I work on one of UK's biggest construction sites and spoken to many Rugby League fans and while most have the opinion that Ben Flowers actions has spoiled as what they perceive as a family game sporting event, they have also said that the media coverage was focused solely on his actions with the majority of neutrals asking why Hohia's offence was almost totally disregarded.
I accept what you say regarding Ben Flowers actions, but his wasn't the only action that lost us the game as the match should have been played 12 v 12. That isnt just my opinion by the way. A couple of guys I spoke to are referees, albeit in the local amateur game and both concluded that Hohia's was a sending off offence.
Flower has been stupid, is now taking his punishment as accepted by him, WWRLFC, the RFL and other clubs in SL.
Saint Helens take home a trophy by default on the failings of officials to monitor the full incident and take appropriate actions.

PM you don't have to defend your opinion that LH should have got a red card, it was as clear a red card as Flowers!!

[Panchitta Marra]

CP what the hell did you expect how can you defend the action of Flower , his stupidity lost us the game mov eon

I work on one of UK's biggest construction sites and spoken to many Rugby League fans and while most have the opinion that Ben Flowers actions has spoiled as what they perceive as a family game sporting event, they have also said that the media coverage was focused solely on his actions with the majority of neutrals asking why Hohia's offence was almost totally disregarded.
I accept what you say regarding Ben Flowers actions, but his wasn't the only action that lost us the game as the match should have been played 12 v 12. That isnt just my opinion by the way. A couple of guys I spoke to are referees, albeit in the local amateur game and both concluded that Hohia's was a sending off offence.
Flower has been stupid, is now taking his punishment as accepted by him, WWRLFC, the RFL and other clubs in SL.
Saint Helens take home a trophy by default on the failings of officials to monitor the full incident and take appropriate actions.

PM you don't have to defend your opinion that LH should have got a red card, it was as clear a red card as Flowers!!

I know that TBW, and understand why it was but why do so many Wiganers think that it was SOLELY Ben Flowers actions that cost us the game. His side of the incident has been picked up and punished, yet the full story hasn't been allowed to be acted upon.
12 v 12, and its Wigans trophy and not that Ben Flower cost us the final.

[Wikimann]

CP what the hell did you expect how can you defend the action of Flower , his stupidity lost us the game mov eon

First and foremost, the sending off whilst making the game far more difficult did not equate to losing the game. The man down Wigan could and should have beaten Saints, you can base that on stats or by mere observations.

NOBODY is saying Ben Flower is not guilty. His 2nd punch was distasteful just as a man sprinting 30 yards to ram his forearms / elbows into the jaw if Ben Flower were equally distasteful. If LH was Gaz Hock, the outcome would have completely different which is absurd.

Flower is a side issue. The big issue is the incompetence and glaring inconsistencies of the RFL when dealing with onfield matters and/or officiating.

It now matters not, 99% want to turn a blind eye, forget it, move on YET I say it again it will happen again and again in 2015 as it did in 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010 and so on. RL will continue to be small time and underachieve. If it makes you all happy then enjoy it but never complain about anything again to do with RL.

Agree totally,by next week everyone will be getting all excited about next seasons fixtures & forgetting the whole incident, let alone pro actively demonstrating their displeasure at the Toad hall goons who do their best to keep RL a second tear parochial sport in the national mindset!

I have to say I'm also disturbed that i seem to be the only one royally miffed at Wigan RLFC & their whole hearted head in the sand complicity in it all. Never mind all this take it on the chin BS or we have to be seen to agree with the guff media,RFL blah blah its b***s**t. Someone in an official capacity should be getting the message out loud & clear,that we are seriously unimpressed by the one sided punishments doled out,yet again,in everyone but Wigans favour!


Theres way too much appeasement,lets just move on,we can't do any more,it will only make things worse,we can't justify this or that clap trap for my liking. Maybe my years as a shop steward or in service do give me something of an edgy attitude for feeling like a fight when I'm left miffed at inequality but the amount of head in sand arse in air is crazy.

I'll say it yet again,this roll over & take it attitude would not emanate from Old Trafford or many other sporting hierarchies with strong pro active leadership. If our so called leaders won't demand equality & fairness then the fans should show their utter contempt by non attendance,its the only way to hit back & make a point. If your not prepared to make such a stand,then drop all this chit chat bleating,bury your heads in the dust & wait for the next time we get shafted,simple as that.

[jao711]

Not sure what you mean CP ,I don't fit in with what you and Panchitta Marra are saying.

[OAMJSONA]

Both of my lads played professional rugby league and have said how hard it is to play practically a full game a man down and expect to win . I do agree with the point that other factors as well as Ben Flowers utter stupidity contributed to our overall down fall, ( Bowen was useless and Bentham as usual was bent - feelings with our supporters will always run high at such incidents especially in important games ) with a full team playing we would have stuffed them good style

What as happend as happend -

The RFL will not change they are as extinct as the dinosaurs

I for one am utting this to rest an d role on next season


Warrior till i die