Wigan v Hull

[ddtftf]

I think the boys are missing Gareth Thomas and the hot chocolate nights lol

[jaws1]

Don't know why we did not take the penalty at the end? On the other It was a converted penalty that saved us the game I honestly don't know when 2 points are gettable that we don't go for them instead of trying to run the ball out. If I can remember right we had a penalty in front of the sticks at WIDNES and we did not go for it we made a draw converted penalty we would have won.

[thegimble]

Don't know why we did not take the penalty at the end? On the other It was a converted penalty that saved us the game I honestly don't know when 2 points are gettable that we don't go for them instead of trying to run the ball out. If I can remember right we had a penalty in front of the sticks at WIDNES and we did not go for it we made a draw converted penalty we would have won.

If we kick the penalty and then they kick off short and get the ball back its a free 50 meters for 2 points which gives us a 3 point margin and they would get 1 or maybe 2 full sets.

The mistake was not in kicking the penalty but Bowen kicked the ball if i am correct over the in goal line instead of getting tackled on the try line and forcing them to go the full length of the pitch.

Taking 2 points when leading by 1 point with 3 minutes to go is only stopping a drop goal tying the game. The correct choice for me was done but not on the last tackle. We gave free yards and a could have got punished for it.

[i'm spartacus]

No, I was hoping for about 30 points on them, done it a convincing fashion.

Scraping past bottom of the league, at home, by a point? Really?

It always amazes me that people never give any credit to the opposition. It is always about what wigan do or fail to do, and never about what the other side get right.

We aren't hitting anything like any sort of consistent form, but Hull are not a bad side, and apart from the second half collapse against Leeds, they have been competing and defending well enough. They have had a lot less points scored against them than four of the teams above them, including us and I think the deserve a great deal of credit for spending almost the entire second half defending their own line and limiting us to a single point. A lot has to said of our defensive frailty in that they only had about 3 or 4 points were we under threat in the second half, and they scored twice.

This season is different than the preceding seasons. There are fewer teams, and the better players from the teams that left have mostly been absorbed by the teams that are still in. In theory it should be much harder to run up cricket scores against sub standard opposition. I think our problems lie in our predictability, and a five eighth trying to find his feet in his new roll.

[sc74]

No, I was hoping for about 30 points on them, done it a convincing fashion.

Scraping past bottom of the league, at home, by a point? Really?

It always amazes me that people never give any credit to the opposition. It is always about what wigan do or fail to do, and never about what the other side get right.

We aren't hitting anything like any sort of consistent form, but Hull are not a bad side, and apart from the second half collapse against Leeds, they have been competing and defending well enough. They have had a lot less points scored against them than four of the teams above them, including us and I think the deserve a great deal of credit for spending almost the entire second half defending their own line and limiting us to a single point. A lot has to said of our defensive frailty in that they only had about 3 or 4 points were we under threat in the second half, and they scored twice.

This season is different than the preceding seasons. There are fewer teams, and the better players from the teams that left have mostly been absorbed by the teams that are still in. In theory it should be much harder to run up cricket scores against sub standard opposition. I think our problems lie in our predictability, and a five eighth trying to find his feet in his new roll.

Really, Hull are not a bad side?

Just because there are 2 less sides, I don't think you should kid yourself about standards improving.

Re. cricket scores, the NRL's best against SL's 'best' springs to mind. Also St's versus Salford.

Anyway, if you're happy with a 1 point win at home to Hull, then the watering down of Wigan by IL has succeeded.
Maybe we'll squeeze into the top 8 this year, here's hoping. If not, never mind, there's always next season.

[TrueBlueWarrior]

Just a question for sc74, have you ever posted anything positive?

[cpwigan]

No, I was hoping for about 30 points on them, done it a convincing fashion.

Scraping past bottom of the league, at home, by a point? Really?

It always amazes me that people never give any credit to the opposition. It is always about what wigan do or fail to do, and never about what the other side get right.

We aren't hitting anything like any sort of consistent form, but Hull are not a bad side, and apart from the second half collapse against Leeds, they have been competing and defending well enough. They have had a lot less points scored against them than four of the teams above them, including us and I think the deserve a great deal of credit for spending almost the entire second half defending their own line and limiting us to a single point. A lot has to said of our defensive frailty in that they only had about 3 or 4 points were we under threat in the second half, and they scored twice.

This season is different than the preceding seasons. There are fewer teams, and the better players from the teams that left have mostly been absorbed by the teams that are still in. In theory it should be much harder to run up cricket scores against sub standard opposition. I think our problems lie in our predictability, and a five eighth trying to find his feet in his new roll.

I do not think many people believe Hull are a good RL team.

Wigan Warriors coach Shaun Wane:

"We could have been a lot more convincing. If we had been more clinical in that final third, we could have won by 20 points, but we created the chances and we are going in the right direction.

"That was a must-win game for us. It's been an awful week, I asked for a response and I got one because they defended better.

Hull FC coach Lee Radford:

"It is frustrating to lose but there are positives because I thought we were outstanding.

"We had every right to lose by more than one point regarding territory and field position as we had very little throughout the game - so to hang on like we did is a credit to us.

So IMO it is wrong to pretend Hull did anything but try hard when both coaches state the winning margin for Wigan should have been a lot greater. Personally, at home I expected Wigan to come out all guns blazing after the previous debacle. I expected a Wigan tea to win by 30 and that IMO is realistic. Hull like the majority of SL clubs are mediocre.[/u]

[i'm spartacus]

I have no idea why sc74 mentions the NRL v SL issue because it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with what happens in a domestic league. Nor did I mention standards improving; what I said was theoretically there should be harder to get cricket scores because the more competent players are not spread so thinly. The quality of the players hasn't improved and i did not imply standards would improve.

I also never said Hull are good side. What I did say cpw is that they are not bad side, which isn't at odds with your analysis that they are mediocre. The quote you posted from Lee Radford says exactly what I said in fewer words, and I didn't write anything that was totally the opposite of the Wane quote.

In short I said Hull defended well because of our predictability, and we are missing some effective distribution.

So as you appear to disagree with me, what exactly is it that you are disagreeing with?

[sc74]

Just a question for sc74, have you ever posted anything positive?

Great question, well done.

[TrueBlueWarrior]

Just a question for sc74, have you ever posted anything positive?

Great question, well done.

Finally a positive post!!