Re: Tonights Game

[Firestarter]

Different hookers. Both very good.roby is only good when saints are on the offensive(go forward).where as Mac is better in a tight game( forward battle).Its macs replacement that is the problem.I rarely blame wanes tactics,but his team selection can be terrible( way too many players playing out of position)

[TrueBlueWarrior]

If anyone has the audacity to blame SW tonight then I will be left speechless, the players have been nothing short of a disgrace!! Schoolboy errors that quality or so called quality SL players should not be making!! That is just my opinion of course!!

Let's get this right

I TBW will praise Wane when Wigan win BUT

I TBW will never criticise Wane whether Wigan win or lose

:with: :with: :with:

There's me thinking the coach is the most important person in any club

No cp we all know you are the most important person involved with Wigan RLFC!!

With out getting into anything personal i have always shown you respect, the lack of respect you have just shown without reading my further posts pretty much sums you up of late. When I meet you in person one day and trust me I will now, I expect to see Michael Maguire, if not I will be hugely disappointed!! I don't expect to see a post from you for 2 weeks as calling someone stupid should be acted upon by the moderators!!

[cpwigan]

I didn't realise smilies were against the rules

[superleague]

I have never once said I agree with SW tactics, however there are always reasons for a defeat. In my opinion the individual schoolboy errors cost us the game tonight without doubt, just look at their 5 scores irrelevant of how bad we were playing, it was amateur like from professionals, that is not acceptable!! Wane needs to play to our strengths but for me which is equally as important the players have to perform more consistently otherwise it's bye bye SW or bye bye some players as they are not up to it! At the moment in general I think it's a bit of both, but for tonight I blame the players more!

I respect your opinions tbw but I don't agree, yes people will focus on the 3 glaring errors but for 80 minutes the whole game plan was wrong/crap, which led to a lack of ball control, ruck control, one on one D, Discipline, etc etc. I do feel there are players who don't want to play for Wane
And we have a fair share of players who aren't good enough who are just average run of the mill players, been saying that all season

[thegimble]

I have never once said I agree with SW tactics, however there are always reasons for a defeat. In my opinion the individual schoolboy errors cost us the game tonight without doubt, just look at their 5 scores irrelevant of how bad we were playing, it was amateur like from professionals, that is not acceptable!! Wane needs to play to our strengths but for me which is equally as important the players have to perform more consistently otherwise it's bye bye SW or bye bye some players as they are not up to it! At the moment in general I think it's a bit of both, but for tonight I blame the players more!

I actually and it might surprise you totally agree.

I have a slight difference that we shift too early and that put us under pressure. Does not excuse the countless errors by good players in defence and attack. But when it starts to go wrong it needs to go back to boring rugby and contain the opposition. That all Saints did tonight.

[sc74]

If anyone has the audacity to blame SW tonight then I will be left speechless, the players have been nothing short of a disgrace!! Schoolboy errors that quality or so called quality SL players should not be making!! That is just my opinion of course!!

Let's get this right

I TBW will praise Wane when Wigan win BUT

I TBW will never criticise Wane whether Wigan win or lose

:with: :with: :with:

There's me thinking the coach is the most important person in any club

You beat me to it. Win, super SW. Lose, poor players.

Too much inconsistency. Not good enough. They were knackered, and even Laurel & Hardy pointed it out. Was there for the taking, thrown away.

Advantage SH, again.

[cpwigan]

Joel is an outstanding second rower.

[ddtftf]

The words HEADLESS CHICKENS IS APROPRIATE

[Firestarter]

Agreed ,but that's not what I said.A blind man could see that Bateman would do a better job there than him

[TrueBlueWarrior]

I have never once said I agree with SW tactics, however there are always reasons for a defeat. In my opinion the individual schoolboy errors cost us the game tonight without doubt, just look at their 5 scores irrelevant of how bad we were playing, it was amateur like from professionals, that is not acceptable!! Wane needs to play to our strengths but for me which is equally as important the players have to perform more consistently otherwise it's bye bye SW or bye bye some players as they are not up to it! At the moment in general I think it's a bit of both, but for tonight I blame the players more!

I respect your opinions tbw but I don't agree, yes people will focus on the 3 glaring errors but for 80 minutes the whole game plan was wrong/crap, which led to a lack of ball control, ruck control, one on one D, Discipline, etc etc. I do feel there are players who don't want to play for Wane

Just 3 SL? All 5 of their scores were glaring errors!! Not to mention the other 20!! Like I have said from day 1 it's a results business and ultimately if results aren't good enough then the coach goes as he is in charge and obviously not doing things right, my point is tonight that the players were more to blame!!