Where will we find improvements for 2016?

[cpwigan]

Players a year older, more experienced, a decent signing in Isa who could be great. Ultimately, despite Wigan looking for all other solution, coaching philosophy is huge in determining success/failure(in our case success = winning GFs/CCs/WCC). I personally disagree with the current coaching philosophy but any coach is right to follow what they believe. Several great strengths are IMO crippled by a poor coaching philosophy with the ball particularly the crucial first two tackle when we too often fail to dominate unless we opt for very risk and prone to failure lateral shifts. Lose the first 2 tackle and you lose control of games. WE are better defending than with the ball.

The youth philosophy ideally is the right way to go. If it pAYS OFF, FANTASTIC BUT THE PHILOSOPHY WITH BALL IN HAND AND DECISION MAKING OR KEP POSITION/EXPERIENCED PLAYERS NEED TO be addressed (apologies caps) to turn runners up into winners.

[medlocke]

Players a year older, more experienced, a decent signing in Isa who could be great. Ultimately, despite Wigan looking for all other solution, coaching philosophy is huge in determining success/failure(in our case success = winning GFs/CCs/WCC). I personally disagree with the current coaching philosophy but any coach is right to follow what they believe. Several great strengths are IMO crippled by a poor coaching philosophy with the ball particularly the crucial first two tackle when we too often fail to dominate unless we opt for very risk and prone to failure lateral shifts. Lose the first 2 tackle and you lose control of games. WE are better defending than with the ball.

The youth philosophy ideally is the right way to go. If it pAYS OFF, FANTASTIC BUT THE PHILOSOPHY WITH BALL IN HAND AND DECISION MAKING OR KEP POSITION/EXPERIENCED PLAYERS NEED TO be addressed (apologies caps) to turn runners up into winners.

Started early this year i see

[Owd Codger]

Players a year older, more experienced, a decent signing in Isa who could be great. Ultimately, despite Wigan looking for all other solution, coaching philosophy is huge in determining success/failure(in our case success = winning GFs/CCs/WCC). I personally disagree with the current coaching philosophy but any coach is right to follow what they believe. Several great strengths are IMO crippled by a poor coaching philosophy with the ball particularly the crucial first two tackle when we too often fail to dominate unless we opt for very risk and prone to failure lateral shifts. Lose the first 2 tackle and you lose control of games. WE are better defending than with the ball.

The youth philosophy ideally is the right way to go. If it pAYS OFF, FANTASTIC BUT THE PHILOSOPHY WITH BALL IN HAND AND DECISION MAKING OR KEP POSITION/EXPERIENCED PLAYERS NEED TO be addressed (apologies caps) to turn runners up into winners.

Started early this year i see

And will continue unless McGuire returns?

[Owd Codger]

Where bullshit is concerned, Wane may be not the only one as there is plenty on here at times.

Especially from those who are always have to be negative and never positive.

Here we are again on the brink of a new season and instead of being full of enthusiam, all we get from the usual suspects is the usual moaning about the coach, squad, administration etc, etc not being good enough.

O ye of little faith!

p.s. Hate to think what it would be like if we were in a position like Bolton Wanderers.

I certainly hope you include the diatribe you spout on here as well

Your contribution being a prime example!

[cpwigan]

Players a year older, more experienced, a decent signing in Isa who could be great. Ultimately, despite Wigan looking for all other solution, coaching philosophy is huge in determining success/failure(in our case success = winning GFs/CCs/WCC). I personally disagree with the current coaching philosophy but any coach is right to follow what they believe. Several great strengths are IMO crippled by a poor coaching philosophy with the ball particularly the crucial first two tackle when we too often fail to dominate unless we opt for very risk and prone to failure lateral shifts. Lose the first 2 tackle and you lose control of games. WE are better defending than with the ball.

The youth philosophy ideally is the right way to go. If it pAYS OFF, FANTASTIC BUT THE PHILOSOPHY WITH BALL IN HAND AND DECISION MAKING OR KEP POSITION/EXPERIENCED PLAYERS NEED TO be addressed (apologies caps) to turn runners up into winners.

Started early this year i see

And will continue unless McGuire returns?

It is just what I believe. To be honest EVERY coaching set up has strengths and weaknesses. I just personally have a different philosophy whilst recognising several strengths of it. Fundamentally, the first two tackles in possession IMO let us down (you can see how control see saws throughout games) and far better people than myself understand that if you lose the first two tackles you lose control of the game. Nevertheless whomever is the coach of whatever club they coach; they must follow their own philosophy right or wrong.

[medlocke]

Players a year older, more experienced, a decent signing in Isa who could be great. Ultimately, despite Wigan looking for all other solution, coaching philosophy is huge in determining success/failure(in our case success = winning GFs/CCs/WCC). I personally disagree with the current coaching philosophy but any coach is right to follow what they believe. Several great strengths are IMO crippled by a poor coaching philosophy with the ball particularly the crucial first two tackle when we too often fail to dominate unless we opt for very risk and prone to failure lateral shifts. Lose the first 2 tackle and you lose control of games. WE are better defending than with the ball.

The youth philosophy ideally is the right way to go. If it pAYS OFF, FANTASTIC BUT THE PHILOSOPHY WITH BALL IN HAND AND DECISION MAKING OR KEP POSITION/EXPERIENCED PLAYERS NEED TO be addressed (apologies caps) to turn runners up into winners.

Started early this year i see

And will continue unless McGuire returns?

You reckon that will ever happen?

[cpwigan]

Started early this year i see

And will continue unless McGuire returns?

You reckon that will ever happen?

NEVER but may be repeated at some point. For example Trent B until recently might have seen the UK as a stepping stone to a full NRL head coach position. No need now.

[TrueBlueWarrior]

And will continue unless McGuire returns?

You reckon that will ever happen?

NEVER but may be repeated at some point. For example Trent B until recently might have seen the UK as a stepping stone to a full NRL head coach position. No need now.

Is Australians coming over for 2 year stints to improve their own reputations before flying back to Oz the way forward though? By the way I don't know the answer!

[cpwigan]

Like you I do not profess to have the answer. I would surmise it depends on the quality of the Antipodean coming here. I do not think simply having an Aus/NZ passport makes somebody better but the success of Madge and Robinson must help attract similarly ambitious Antipodeans. Is it even the answer I guess it depends short term or long term? I do think experiencing a different country/RL can make for a better coach etc. IMO; John Winder who interestingly was not an amazing player has benefited from his stint in Melbourne/Australia but that could also be down to his quality as a person.

People could easily argue look at McDermott and he to my knowledge is British with minimal overseas experience. The opposite could be somebody saying look at Salford with Noble and Harris.

I do think isolation wherever is a bad thing for anybody/any club/any sport.

[Owd Codger]

I certainly hope you include the diatribe you spout on here as well

Your contribution being a prime example!

Perhaps you should read posts more carefully and accept other people want to see far more from the club and trophies in the cabinet rather than continuous comments about we are doing OK. In future Please dont put cretinous posts and pathetic shots across the bow about being negative its truly vomit inducing

Did I mention anyone or indeed yourself in particular with my first contribution which by the way I was entitled to say even if it does not meet with your opinion.

And yes, like everyone else, I also want to see the club do better which hopefully will happen in the season ahead.