Wigan young player developement

[dickidido]

From what I've been told he was one of cas best players pre season and looks fit and sharp if wane had a brain cell hed ring Powell and say what the hell is going on either play him or send him back and we will then give him a proppa chance if he fails then at least he's had that chance

[Wiganer Ted]

Hampshire in the Cas 19 for Hull FC Thursday night.
Roberts, Gale and Dorn also named.
Looks like Ryan won't play, again!

[Panchitta Marra]

Wane does not rate Hampshire.

That much seems clear, but is it personal or professional?

Also, clearly someone higher in the club does rate rocky because it really l looks like if the decision was wanes, rocky would be gone already.

Wane doesn't like players who don't put 100% effort in, and I know he already has favourites from the current youth structure, that are prepared to knuckle in more than the rest.
I'm not saying Rocky doesn't fit that remit and other players do, but the talent isn't recognised by Wane unless they are prepared to put the effort in.

[dickidido]

I find that very strange. I've spoke to Ryan quite a few times and have always found him to one of the most courteous and polite young men I have met. In fact I wish he did have a bit more "mongrel" in him. As for him never being a fullback this is where I have a bit of a difference of opinion. IMO the modern day fullback is an extra half anyway, and are interchangeable. Dorn, Lomax, Tomkins, Hanbury etc can all play in both positions. Anthony Milford for the Broncos is another such player. In hindsight, which is always a wonderful thing it would probably have been better for both player and club had Hampshire stayed at Wigan in view of Tomkins long lay off and the current injury list, but the crystal ball has been thrown away. I would recall him now, if that's possible, particularly as for whatever reason he's not getting selected at Cas, getting no game time at all. Had he stayed at Wigan he would have played every week even if a couple were at reserve level, which would have been better than not playing at all. We all know he was frustrated at not getting any games from June last year so I can only imagine how fed up he is feeling now.

I think it's that lack of 'mongrel' about him that puts him lower down the pecking order in Wane's eyes. I certainly don't think it's a poor attitude and Wane gave him plenty of chances at fullback when he could have used Tierney, who he's now given a chance to.

Both Powell and Williams are very tough defenders, especially for halfbacks. We saw in the friendlies that when he's in the halves Powell is a very keen defender and will get stuck in. As for Williams, he was tough enough be thrown straight in at hooker in Super League without taking a backward step. I think that's why Wane seems to favour Powell and Williams. Hampshire can be a bit weak in the tackle. I think that's also the reason Powell was favoured over Logan Tomkins at hooker.

whilst it's probably true that waney likes tough defenders the country is crying out for halves who can take the line on run at with pace and pass acurately. Tough defending didn't work at the weekend in any of the games. Who in their right mind would expect rocky to tackle Ben Westwood upstairs errrrrrr waney. If people want mediocrity then this Is only going to get worse. Rocky doesn't miss tackles in the halves maybe he's not dominant but he's their to create and make oppertunities and win games so help him. The attack from the brit teams in all three games was toothless slow and lacked imagination. Smith misses more tackles than anyone and nothing is said he's no pace and a steady player. The game needs to change sharpish.skill is needed not robots.wigan have missed a trick with rocky and George they should of brought them through together and built a big pack round them. As for rocky I think he has to accept his career at wigan is over unless wane gets the sack hed play a fan first at half rather than lose face and recall rocky

[nathan_rugby]

I find that very strange. I've spoke to Ryan quite a few times and have always found him to one of the most courteous and polite young men I have met. In fact I wish he did have a bit more "mongrel" in him. As for him never being a fullback this is where I have a bit of a difference of opinion. IMO the modern day fullback is an extra half anyway, and are interchangeable. Dorn, Lomax, Tomkins, Hanbury etc can all play in both positions. Anthony Milford for the Broncos is another such player. In hindsight, which is always a wonderful thing it would probably have been better for both player and club had Hampshire stayed at Wigan in view of Tomkins long lay off and the current injury list, but the crystal ball has been thrown away. I would recall him now, if that's possible, particularly as for whatever reason he's not getting selected at Cas, getting no game time at all. Had he stayed at Wigan he would have played every week even if a couple were at reserve level, which would have been better than not playing at all. We all know he was frustrated at not getting any games from June last year so I can only imagine how fed up he is feeling now.

I think it's that lack of 'mongrel' about him that puts him lower down the pecking order in Wane's eyes. I certainly don't think it's a poor attitude and Wane gave him plenty of chances at fullback when he could have used Tierney, who he's now given a chance to.

Both Powell and Williams are very tough defenders, especially for halfbacks. We saw in the friendlies that when he's in the halves Powell is a very keen defender and will get stuck in. As for Williams, he was tough enough be thrown straight in at hooker in Super League without taking a backward step. I think that's why Wane seems to favour Powell and Williams. Hampshire can be a bit weak in the tackle. I think that's also the reason Powell was favoured over Logan Tomkins at hooker.

Said this all along, it comes down to his defence. Wane favours defence a lot more than attack.

[nathan_rugby]

I heard from close quarters that a couple of years ago Hampshire's attitude was abysmal and he riled up quite a few players with his cocky attitude and ever since has been like the naughty kid in the corner. Make of that what you will but that's what i was told.

I find that very strange. I've spoke to Ryan quite a few times and have always found him to one of the most courteous and polite young men I have met. In fact I wish he did have a bit more "mongrel" in him. As for him never being a fullback this is where I have a bit of a difference of opinion. IMO the modern day fullback is an extra half anyway, and are interchangeable. Dorn, Lomax, Tomkins, Hanbury etc can all play in both positions. Anthony Milford for the Broncos is another such player. In hindsight, which is always a wonderful thing it would probably have been better for both player and club had Hampshire stayed at Wigan in view of Tomkins long lay off and the current injury list, but the crystal ball has been thrown away. I would recall him now, if that's possible, particularly as for whatever reason he's not getting selected at Cas, getting no game time at all. Had he stayed at Wigan he would have played every week even if a couple were at reserve level, which would have been better than not playing at all. We all know he was frustrated at not getting any games from June last year so I can only imagine how fed up he is feeling now.

In terms of an attacking sense, there isn't too much difference between traditional stand off (2nd receiver) and fullback (3rd receiver).

However, from a defensive point of view there is. Halfbacks tend to defend between the centres and wingers because they are not as big as the centres, are not as good at tackling and need more energy for attack. Fullbacks have to deal with a lot more high balls, high balls under pressure, defending one on one which is a very hard skill to master and the positional play for long distance kicks and short distance kicks.