Tonights game

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up the junction
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Re: Tonights game

Post by up the junction »

Three tries in two games????? Utter garbage . Sarge needs to go now ,Gildart not yet ready ,and Powell for all his tackling brings nothing to our attack,every other 9 in the league runs and makes yards from dummy but ours.We cant blame Smith all season for a failing team with no clue in attack .Danny Houghton looked like a world beater .
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Wigan Watcher wrote:I'm surprised all these remarks, come on have people only just started watching rugby league this season, the writing was on the wall at the beginning of the season.
Yeah but we have been "sold" the idea that everything would be fine once the messiah Sam Tomkins returned to the team. He is clearly not fit and we would be better off with Matty Bowen in this side as we are currently playing
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Wane needs to either change the structure or go if we had the attack coach of any of the top 8 and Leeds coach in SL we would have won everything this season.

Wane is the issue we are getting dominated time after time due to us unable to turn any pressure into score a try get a quick one after. 2013 our attack was on par with one of the best Warrington's of the same year. Year on year we have gone backwards and look at our squad. Squad is amazing strength in depth but we never have a 1-13 on the pitch that can trouble any of the top 2 in SL atm.

Sorry for the fans who went tonight but once they took the lead you knew we would not trouble their line. We defended very well to a point but the amount of yards a Hull player made after the initial collision was atrocious. 3 players could be on him and the 4th would join on top and still he went forward.

The team is carrying players Smith but that is more to do with the pack getting dominated pack plays well he shines. Lockers provides very little time to let Bateman or Flower go 13. Most of the forwards are so under used its a joke.

I am not disappointed we lost I am more disappointed with the performances over the last few weeks which has highlighted the issues we have as a team.

It starts and ends with the attack and the fault lies with the coach who is too stubborn to change. No point Mr Wane pulling faces when it breaks down even Stevie Wonder see what we throw at teams. We got beaten by the better side we defended like a top team but we attack like a mid table Championship side.
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loyalbelfast wrote:First of all where is our support? its all Hull fans one end of the ground with mostly plastic seats elswhere except for a few sections behind goal! Its a semi for goodness sake in a 2 trophy season! What's wrong we are Wigan!(atop team in this planet ?? Imagine if it was a top 4 footie team in a Fa cup semi with thousands not going to it?

Its all Hull really so far ball wise yet we lead!! Super defence we have but little attack

Big big performmances required 2nds stanza please to get us to Wem..b...lee...Wem...B..Lee from ech player .

No one so far gets above 7 or stands out individually

A&L (just like Belfast!)
LoL, the whole plan was for Hull to have massive support and Wigan to have very little. Two semis; Wigan get the Friday evening slot rather than Saturday v Hull at a stadium twice as close to Hull as Wigan. It is no reason to lose BUT the RFL wanted Hull in the final.

If the RFL genuinely wanted a big attendance etc then they mysteriously did the opposite ;)
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loyalbelfast wrote:Right from the start just didn't get a buzz at all with thiis semi, a quick look at what support we had was the start of it along with the opening plays

Hull domination mostly with no big performance from anyone really for a semi with Wembley towers in the horizon

Some of our plays on the 5th tackle - disgraceful

Knock on...after knock on...

Average players will not cut it, less than 7 out of 10 week after weekI have said this time after time, energy & effort even loads of it is just not enought to lift trophies

Really this should be 4 losses on the trot, we all know we got out of jail with the Wakefield win

Super 8's left now I have no confidence on this at all in the business end of the season from what I have seen ?

A&L(just like Belfast!)
And p poor fans to boot!!
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thegimble
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cpwigan wrote:
loyalbelfast wrote:First of all where is our support? its all Hull fans one end of the ground with mostly plastic seats elswhere except for a few sections behind goal! Its a semi for goodness sake in a 2 trophy season! What's wrong we are Wigan!(atop team in this planet ?? Imagine if it was a top 4 footie team in a Fa cup semi with thousands not going to it?

Its all Hull really so far ball wise yet we lead!! Super defence we have but little attack

Big big performmances required 2nds stanza please to get us to Wem..b...lee...Wem...B..Lee from ech player .

No one so far gets above 7 or stands out individually

A&L (just like Belfast!)
LoL, the whole plan was for Hull to have massive support and Wigan to have very little. Two semis; Wigan get the Friday evening slot rather than Saturday v Hull at a stadium twice as close to Hull as Wigan. It is no reason to lose BUT the RFL wanted Hull in the final.

If the RFL genuinely wanted a big attendance etc then they mysteriously did the opposite ;)
I disagree RFL will get a higher gate Wire V Hull than Wigan v Wire due to the amount of Warriors which go to the final regardless of who is playing.
The booze hound
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Re: Tonights game

Post by The booze hound »

up the junction wrote:Three tries in two games????? Utter garbage . Sarge needs to go now ,Gildart not yet ready ,and Powell for all his tackling brings nothing to our attack,every other 9 in the league runs and makes yards from dummy but ours.We cant blame Smith all season for a failing team with no clue in attack .Danny Houghton looked like a world beater .
When Powell began filling in for MM this season he did offer something attacking wise. However, he seems to be concentrating on the defensive side much more now, ala MM. Is this down to coaching?
Wintergreen
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Post by Wintergreen »

Was utterly dreadfull.

Dull, boring, no imagination.

No doubting effort, but that's not enough.

I think it's now time for a change in coach. Wane has had a go but unfortunately it's not enough.

If the standard of RL in this country wasn't dropping like a stone we really would be in trouble.
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Re: Tonights game

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thegimble wrote:Wane needs to either change the structure or go if we had the attack coach of any of the top 8 and Leeds coach in SL we would have won everything this season.

Wane is the issue we are getting dominated time after time due to us unable to turn any pressure into score a try get a quick one after. 2013 our attack was on par with one of the best Warrington's of the same year. Year on year we have gone backwards and look at our squad. Squad is amazing strength in depth but we never have a 1-13 on the pitch that can trouble any of the top 2 in SL atm.

Sorry for the fans who went tonight but once they took the lead you knew we would not trouble their line. We defended very well to a point but the amount of yards a Hull player made after the initial collision was atrocious. 3 players could be on him and the 4th would join on top and still he went forward.

The team is carrying players Smith but that is more to do with the pack getting dominated pack plays well he shines. Lockers provides very little time to let Bateman or Flower go 13. Most of the forwards are so under used its a joke.

I am not disappointed we lost I am more disappointed with the performances over the last few weeks which has highlighted the issues we have as a team.

It starts and ends with the attack and the fault lies with the coach who is too stubborn to change. No point Mr Wane pulling faces when it breaks down even Stevie Wonder see what we throw at teams. We got beaten by the better side we defended like a top team but we attack like a mid table Championship side.
Fair points and it's been going on like this for at least two seasons regardless of who is fit.

The number of times I see posts saying we need an attack coach is doing my head in. We need a different coach full stop. Wane calls the shots and has responsibility for the team and I think there is limited scope for an attack coach to do anything with Wane dominating proceedings.

Even if we go nowhere in the S8's I don't expect a change. IL will point to injuries and it will be as it has been for the past couple of seasons, look to the next one.

This time it won't be Sam as the saviour but TL and Budgie.

We will be getting like Wire soon. Always going to be "our year".

I am fed up with it. I can take losing if I think we have a chance of winning other games and are playing well but I now go to games hoping we at least manage a try and don't get nilled! Any other scores are a bonus.

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Re: Tonights game

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DaveO wrote:
thegimble wrote:Wane needs to either change the structure or go if we had the attack coach of any of the top 8 and Leeds coach in SL we would have won everything this season.

Wane is the issue we are getting dominated time after time due to us unable to turn any pressure into score a try get a quick one after. 2013 our attack was on par with one of the best Warrington's of the same year. Year on year we have gone backwards and look at our squad. Squad is amazing strength in depth but we never have a 1-13 on the pitch that can trouble any of the top 2 in SL atm.

Sorry for the fans who went tonight but once they took the lead you knew we would not trouble their line. We defended very well to a point but the amount of yards a Hull player made after the initial collision was atrocious. 3 players could be on him and the 4th would join on top and still he went forward.

The team is carrying players Smith but that is more to do with the pack getting dominated pack plays well he shines. Lockers provides very little time to let Bateman or Flower go 13. Most of the forwards are so under used its a joke.

I am not disappointed we lost I am more disappointed with the performances over the last few weeks which has highlighted the issues we have as a team.

It starts and ends with the attack and the fault lies with the coach who is too stubborn to change. No point Mr Wane pulling faces when it breaks down even Stevie Wonder see what we throw at teams. We got beaten by the better side we defended like a top team but we attack like a mid table Championship side.
Fair points and it's been going on like this for at least two seasons regardless of who is fit.

The number of times I see posts saying we need an attack coach is doing my head in. We need a different coach full stop. Wane calls the shots and has responsibility for the team and I think there is limited scope for an attack coach to do anything with Wane dominating proceedings.

Even if we go nowhere in the S8's I don't expect a change. IL will point to injuries and it will be as it has been for the past couple of seasons, look to the next one.

This time it won't be Sam as the saviour but TL and Budgie.

We will be getting like Wire soon. Always going to be "our year".

I am fed up with it. I can take losing if I think we have a chance of winning other games and are playing well but I now go to games hoping we at least manage a try and don't get nilled! Any other scores are a bonus.
Totally agree
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