Wigan Warriors in Crisis?

[kevbrown1980]

Is this guy for real? Ruining players careers?

http://the18thman.com/2017/04/11/opinio ... in-crisis/

* Fixed your link - Josie of

[Wigan_forever1985]

Drivel

While i accept for 2 years now we seem to have had a disproportionate amount of injuries i don't feel like our style of play accounts for much of it. I think there are a number of factors.

I genuinely think its a problem for the entire league not just us but my theory is we are simply making the players too athletic, too finely tuned then asking them to be rigorous with their bodies. The game is played at such a pace and intensity now that its getting beyond what the human body can naturally handle.

In the past props were big blokes, wingers were little blokes and thats how everything stayed. The props weren't pumped full of protein powders and energy gels they were just massive blokes and they were slow and cumbersome (by modern standards) so while they were difficult to stop they weren't bringing speed or change of direction into the equation as much. They you had the little blokes on the wings and in the backs who stayed little because they used speed. They wouldn't mix it with the props as much.

Now however props are big blokes slimmed down and backs are little blokes beefed up. What this means is very few players are playing at their natural size and weight, Add to this the speed and intensity have gone up. If you line up a modern rugby team and took all their shirts away apart from making Josie very happy (couldn't resist) it would be difficult to tell who was playing where simply by looking at them.

Bradford in part brought this age of the big athlete in when they amassed a team of massive players who were also quick and steam rolled the league.

I think we will continue to see this trend of injuries because players aren't allowed to stay their natural size and weight. Look at rob burrow he played his natural weight and up until this last few seasons he was rarely injured, tomkins never got injured until he started to bulk up.

Drive a car over a speed bump at speed you will cause damage put 5 concrete flags in the back and do it again you will cause more

[yokozuna]

Opinion is fine (even if I disagree with it completely), but he's said things that are factually incorrect.

[jao711]

Like the man said , opinion ,nothing more.Sounds like another anti-Wiganer quite likely a Cas fan judging by the tone of the piece.Funny how they all manage to mention Wigan on the various boards.Time to worry when they stop talking about us.

[shaunedwardsfanclub]

Crisis, what crisis? We still won the GF in 2016! It is a good job for the rest that we have injuries otherwise we would be sitting proudly at the top of the league. Let's see what happens as the season unfolds.

[moto748]

Drivel

While i accept for 2 years now we seem to have had a disproportionate amount of injuries i don't feel like our style of play accounts for much of it. I think there are a number of factors.

I genuinely think its a problem for the entire league not just us but my theory is we are simply making the players too athletic, too finely tuned then asking them to be rigorous with their bodies. The game is played at such a pace and intensity now that its getting beyond what the human body can naturally handle.

In the past props were big blokes, wingers were little blokes and thats how everything stayed. The props weren't pumped full of protein powders and energy gels they were just massive blokes and they were slow and cumbersome (by modern standards) so while they were difficult to stop they weren't bringing speed or change of direction into the equation as much. They you had the little blokes on the wings and in the backs who stayed little because they used speed. They wouldn't mix it with the props as much.

Now however props are big blokes slimmed down and backs are little blokes beefed up. What this means is very few players are playing at their natural size and weight, Add to this the speed and intensity have gone up. If you line up a modern rugby team and took all their shirts away apart from making Josie very happy (couldn't resist) it would be difficult to tell who was playing where simply by looking at them.

Bradford in part brought this age of the big athlete in when they amassed a team of massive players who were also quick and steam rolled the league.

I think we will continue to see this trend of injuries because players aren't allowed to stay their natural size and weight. Look at rob burrow he played his natural weight and up until this last few seasons he was rarely injured, tomkins never got injured until he started to bulk up.

Drive a car over a speed bump at speed you will cause damage put 5 concrete flags in the back and do it again you will cause more

Not just in SL either. I was watching the Cowboys last night: Jason Taumalolo, he is a beast! How on earth would defences have coped with him twenty years ago?! Pace, power, footwork; I can't imagine trying to stop a guy like that!

[josie andrews]

Drivel

While i accept for 2 years now we seem to have had a disproportionate amount of injuries i don't feel like our style of play accounts for much of it. I think there are a number of factors.

I genuinely think its a problem for the entire league not just us but my theory is we are simply making the players too athletic, too finely tuned then asking them to be rigorous with their bodies. The game is played at such a pace and intensity now that its getting beyond what the human body can naturally handle.

In the past props were big blokes, wingers were little blokes and thats how everything stayed. The props weren't pumped full of protein powders and energy gels they were just massive blokes and they were slow and cumbersome (by modern standards) so while they were difficult to stop they weren't bringing speed or change of direction into the equation as much. They you had the little blokes on the wings and in the backs who stayed little because they used speed. They wouldn't mix it with the props as much.

Now however props are big blokes slimmed down and backs are little blokes beefed up. What this means is very few players are playing at their natural size and weight, Add to this the speed and intensity have gone up. If you line up a modern rugby team and took all their shirts away apart from making Josie very happy (couldn't resist) it would be difficult to tell who was playing where simply by looking at them.

Bradford in part brought this age of the big athlete in when they amassed a team of massive players who were also quick and steam rolled the league.

I think we will continue to see this trend of injuries because players aren't allowed to stay their natural size and weight. Look at rob burrow he played his natural weight and up until this last few seasons he was rarely injured, tomkins never got injured until he started to bulk up.

Drive a car over a speed bump at speed you will cause damage put 5 concrete flags in the back and do it again you will cause more

Cracking post & completely correct about the size & shape of the players physically metamorphosing.

At one time you would never see a second row forward playing centre!!

As for seeing the players without their shirts, my memory was definitely jogged at the Widnes game!!

More so when Lockers came to give me his shirt, put his arm round me & gave me a kiss :inlo: :inlo:

Ee, he's a bonnie lad ????????

[moto748]

Guy in the pub the other night remarked that he saw Lockers in Tescos, and it struck him how young he looked, compared to seeing him knackered on the pitch!

[Wormburner]

Guy in the pub the other night remarked that he saw Lockers in Tescos, and it struck him how young he looked, compared to seeing him knackered on the pitch!

He's always knackered on the pitch, when he's not injured

[pedro]

Drivel

While i accept for 2 years now we seem to have had a disproportionate amount of injuries i don't feel like our style of play accounts for much of it. I think there are a number of factors.

I genuinely think its a problem for the entire league not just us but my theory is we are simply making the players too athletic, too finely tuned then asking them to be rigorous with their bodies. The game is played at such a pace and intensity now that its getting beyond what the human body can naturally handle.

In the past props were big blokes, wingers were little blokes and thats how everything stayed. The props weren't pumped full of protein powders and energy gels they were just massive blokes and they were slow and cumbersome (by modern standards) so while they were difficult to stop they weren't bringing speed or change of direction into the equation as much. They you had the little blokes on the wings and in the backs who stayed little because they used speed. They wouldn't mix it with the props as much.

Now however props are big blokes slimmed down and backs are little blokes beefed up. What this means is very few players are playing at their natural size and weight, Add to this the speed and intensity have gone up. If you line up a modern rugby team and took all their shirts away apart from making Josie very happy (couldn't resist) it would be difficult to tell who was playing where simply by looking at them.

Bradford in part brought this age of the big athlete in when they amassed a team of massive players who were also quick and steam rolled the league.

I think we will continue to see this trend of injuries because players aren't allowed to stay their natural size and weight. Look at rob burrow he played his natural weight and up until this last few seasons he was rarely injured, tomkins never got injured until he started to bulk up.

Drive a car over a speed bump at speed you will cause damage put 5 concrete flags in the back and do it again you will cause more

Not just in SL either. I was watching the Cowboys last night: Jason Taumalolo, he is a beast! How on earth would defences have coped with him twenty years ago?! Pace, power, footwork; I can't imagine trying to stop a guy like that!

20 years ago? they would have taken his head off, 40 years ago they would have killed him