General election

[thegimble]

She now has to do a deal with the DUP who wants open borders with the Irish Republic and EU have already said you can not cherry pick where you have borders as the EU is one club.

The interesting thing about that is the price of such a deal is the DUP do NOT want a special status for Northern Ireland.

I have been reading that their price for a deal is an equally hard Brexit for N.I. as for the rest of the UK. Their stupid "logic" is that if N.I. got such a special deal such as open borders to the republic this would place N.I. closer to Europe (and therefore closer to the republic) than to the UK. That is they see a soft Brexit for N.I. as a threat to its Union with the rest of the UK.

The issue of N.I. and its border with the republic has always been one of (if not the) biggest Brexit issue that May and Co have just kept kicking down the road because they have no sensible answer.

Now the very thing that could lead to serious political repercussions i.e. a hard border with the republic, is the price the DUP want to make May & Co pay for remaining in government.

Assuming May goes for this, we will now see that what motivates Tories is not the good of the UK but the overriding desire to remain in power. They will risk an upsurge in Irish Republicanism by allowing the DUP to dictate a hard brexit for N.I. to cling to power.

Lets see if there are any Tories prepared not to go down this unprincipled track who will step up and say no to a very dangerous Tory/DUP pact. I am not holding my breath.

I agree someone has to swallow a bitter pill on this and if its the DUP and they get extra cash for it for NI then Scotland, England and Wales could well turn next election and go for revenge. This is really setting us up nicely for another election this year or early next year.

It was in the DUP manifesto they want gay sex marriage banned and they do not want a hard Brexit. In coalition there is always casualties which spectacularly got rid of Clegg last night his punishment got him in the end. Are DUP going to risk their votes to prop up a government that goes hard Brexit and has to have a border with extra taxes with Ireland.

Are the DUP really going to help Tories potentially take a hard Brexit when they campaigned against one in this election. All Labour have to do now is play a disciplined game. Corbyn has gone from the weakest leader in British politics this year to the strongest one inside a few weeks.

Yesterday was a strange day.

[thegimble]

May has shown she isn't strong and stable, but also Labour haven't made enough ground to challenge the conservs effectively,

what i do find interesting (and yes i understand its how our voting system works) is that the Conservs only recieved 2.4% more of the vote than labour, importantly this was 57 more seats.

seats show a conserv leaning in the UK but voting shows the country is near enough split down the middle between conservs and labour.

I have not looked at the results in detail but I did notice at least one ion Scotland where the Tories took the seat off the SNP but the combined Labour and SNP vote was way ahead of the winning Tory vote.

The opposition (to the Tory) vote was split to the Tories benefit.

This reminded me very much of the time when the SDP party of David Own & Shirley Williams spit the opposition vote and gave Thatcher a thumping majority.

Another interesting one is Hastings where Amber Rudd nearly lost to Labour and I bet there are more than a few Lib Dem voters kicking themselves this morning for not lending their vote to Labour.

That will be the next course for Labour and Lib Dems they will do pacts just like Tories and UKIP did this time. Especially if the Unholy alliance ends inside a year or 2 and Labour maintain or improve in its standing with the country.

[Wandering Warrior]

It is now time for Corbyn to resign as leader of the Labour party after being unsuccessful at winning the General Election :exc:

You wish. Labours so called liability turned out to be their biggest asset and made the Tories "strong and stable" leader look weak and feeble.

What do you think of the Tories new alliance with a party with links to paramilitaries? The DUP? You know the party that opposed the Good Friday agreement?

I'm quite happy with it Dave, just like the Brexit vote Democracy worked and the right side won

Are you on dope? May is an absolute Muppet :exc:
I'll bet you believe in a spirit in the sky as well
Corbyn has given her a right dry bumming :exc: :exc:
And Brexit will now be pie in the sky, the 27 will have permanently wet pants over this.
Tell me where you live, I reckon I could sell you a bucket of steam :exc: :exc:

[Wandering Warrior]

It is now time for Corbyn to resign as leader of the Labour party after being unsuccessful at winning the General Election :exc:

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt today that you are fishing. After all nobody can be dumb 24/7 :exc:
As an afterthought Neil Kinnock led Labour, and failed, in two General Elections if I remember correctly Mr Medlocke.
The plus side with Corbyn is he has morals, whereaispicableds the Tories are bankrupt in that department, and have been for at least my lifetime.

Just who do you think you are you patronising Engineer qua mechanic. Also what do you know about morals in general and Corbyn's in particular in contrast to disparaging all Tories.
Your an intellectual pigmy and a shit. Why don't you grow up and wash behind your ears. LOOSER

It's loser actually not LOOSER. If your going to have a pop at least switch your brain on owd en :exc:

[Wormburner]

You wish. Labours so called liability turned out to be their biggest asset and made the Tories "strong and stable" leader look weak and feeble.

What do you think of the Tories new alliance with a party with links to paramilitaries? The DUP? You know the party that opposed the Good Friday agreement?

I'm quite happy with it Dave, just like the Brexit vote Democracy worked and the right side won

Are you on dope? May is an absolute Muppet :exc:
I'll bet you believe in a spirit in the sky as well
Corbyn has given her a right dry bumming :exc: :exc:
And Brexit will now be pie in the sky, the 27 will have permanently wet pants over this.
Tell me where you live, I reckon I could sell you a bucket of steam :exc: :exc:

You really are the gift that keeps on giving, keep it up fella, tis good sport :hehe: , i must go, the Risotto is catching

[Wandering Warrior]

I'm quite happy with it Dave, just like the Brexit vote Democracy worked and the right side won

Are you on dope? May is an absolute Muppet :exc:
I'll bet you believe in a spirit in the sky as well
Corbyn has given her a right dry bumming :exc: :exc:
And Brexit will now be pie in the sky, the 27 will have permanently wet pants over this.
Tell me where you live, I reckon I could sell you a bucket of steam :exc: :exc:

You really are the gift that keeps on giving, keep it up fella, tis good sport :hehe: , i must go, the Risotto is catching

Yeh, bring it on , I practice banter with professionals :exc:
You've got a coffin dodger fighting your battles now :exc:
How embarrassing?
Eh, but thanks for showing me that cartoon exclamation mark, I appreciate that :exc: :exc: :exc:
Can you sort one of these out ¿ inverted same¿?¿

[Wormburner]

Are you on dope? May is an absolute Muppet :exc:
I'll bet you believe in a spirit in the sky as well
Corbyn has given her a right dry bumming :exc: :exc:
And Brexit will now be pie in the sky, the 27 will have permanently wet pants over this.
Tell me where you live, I reckon I could sell you a bucket of steam :exc: :exc:

You really are the gift that keeps on giving, keep it up fella, tis good sport :hehe: , i must go, the Risotto is catching

Yeh, bring it on , I practice banter with professionals :exc:
You've got a coffin dodger fighting your battles now :exc:
How embarrassing?
Eh, but thanks for showing me that cartoon exclamation mark, I appreciate that :exc: :exc: :exc:
Can you sort one of these out ¿ inverted same¿?¿

ɹǝpɹɐɥ ʎɹʇ ʇsnɯ Ɛ-

[SJ]

This is the second time I've caught you out. I've got you twice to say your a Loser as opposed to a looser As I said. U R an interllectual Pygmy and Looser. Go on do it again LOSER

[Wandering Warrior]

This is the second time I've caught you out. I've got you twice to say your a Loser as opposed to a looser As I said. U R an interllectual Pygmy and Looser. Go on do it again LOSER

Yeh right :exc: Back in your coffin owd en!
Let's not forget you failed your 11 plus and went to the rejects school :exc:
It's great to be wise after the event SJ isn't it?

[Wandering Warrior]

Good to see Nigel Evans, Tory slimeball and Rubble Valley reptile, come out with a bit of sense on Look North, unfortunately Jimmy you'll be in Italy with your drawbridge up :exc:
He stated the Tories had persuaded the wrinklies not to vote for them whilst JC had persuaded the young folk, who happen to be the future of the country and paying for the medicines for SJ and Medlocke, to vote Labour
:exc:
Well it worked, even though JC has only scratched the surface. Maggie May has to rely on a bunch of militia to get her strong and stable leadershit through.