Danny Orr 7/ Moran 6 (and leave it)

[demt82]

Against Warrington on friday millward played Orr at scrum half and Moran at stand-off. To be honest i think this isn't a bad idea as Moran (is a stand off!!)and it might sharpen danny orr up and get him running at thye line more.

Why can't we just keep this setup and give the lads chance to get some chemistry working in these positions, in time this could be a good half-back option.

What do you think?

[ChrisA]

demt82 posted:
Against Warrington on friday millward played Orr at scrum half and Moran at stand-off. To be honest i think this isn't a bad idea as Moran (is a stand off!!)and it might sharpen danny orr up and get him running at thye line more.

Why can't we just keep this setup and give the lads chance to get some chemistry working in these positions, in time this could be a good half-back option.

What do you think?

I think in the modern are it makes no difference at all, they play the same game exactly, one operates on the left and one on the right, very rarely do they have to link up.

[Martin Taylor]

I agree with this theory. I think Moran is more naturally a stand-off with his support play and pace (did he not start off as a stand-off?), while Orr for all his faults does seem to be a better organiser and is certainly more vocal than Moran. Personally, i think these are both players more natural positions.

[ChrisA]

Doug Stand posted:

ChrisA posted:
I think in the modern are it makes no difference at all, they play the same game exactly, one operates on the left and one on the right, very rarely do they have to link up.

Certainley it matters little what number you have on your back, it's all about the role you play.

One hal;fback has got to take control of the game, the other can step up when need or move out wider to folow the break.
when putting a move together it doesn't have to go 9 to 7 to 6.. but whoever is not first receiver has to be able to make a break or follow the man with the ball for the off-load to be put through a gap.

Look, I'm sorry I keep harping on about old players but it's all valid. When Hanley played stand-off I thought he was one of the worst passers of the game I've ever seen... thing is you didn't actuallly want Hanley to pass the ball, because his strength skill to make a break was amazing. What else was amazing was his ability to read the game and know when a break, half break anything was on.

To give an example a game in 87 at Oldham Hanley bagged three. His third was amazing, I spent the day watching how he played the game. His ability to read the game was how he scored a lot of tries.
He was stood almost in the right centre position, but the play was switched to the left. Before any break had happened Hanley ran across the field and made the extra man taking a ball from David Stephenson in the left Wing position and scoring in the corner.
A stand-off can go anywhere he likes and esentially it was Hanleys running into the space that actually created the break made by David Stephenson.

Point being If one half is creating the other doesn't have to as well, let him read the game follow the flow and be on the side of someone for the off-load...

No point in having Moran and Orr stood at the side of each other throwing the same pass...

Watch how we and alot of teams play, Moran takes one side and Orr takes the other, all your traditionalism doesn't count for anything Doug. I agree that they are different roles, I agree 100% with you, go back to Edwards/Gregory + Botica/Edwards and thats exactly what they did, it worked, they controlled the game and played some great rugby.
Thing is we don't play like that, we just end up woth Orr taking the left side and Moran on the right, right or wrong Doug thats how we play, swapping them would make no difference.
Millward said this last season that thats how they operate when he was talking about Danny Tickle running of Danny Orr, if you want to argue with him over it do so.

[mike binder]

demt82 posted:
Against Warrington on friday millward played Orr at scrum half and Moran at stand-off. To be honest i think this isn't a bad idea as Moran (is a stand off!!)and it might sharpen danny orr up and get him running at thye line more.

Why can't we just keep this setup and give the lads chance to get some chemistry working in these positions, in time this could be a good half-back option.

What do you think?

i dont think thats as bad as it sound orr as got a good pair of hands and moran is defenetly faster than him so could feed off him ,not a bad idea really as long as calderwood comes in side to support as well

[mrs_carney]

Danny Orr - 6 Higham - 7 Wagga - 9 Moran - bench Brown - not within a hundred miles of the ground and we might have some direction to our play

[mike binder]

think wagga would be better a 7 and lover boy higham 200 mileas away, he walked past me on friday after the match in needed to say something but like he did on the pitch i bottled it

[mrs_carney]

mike binder posted:
think wagga would be better a 7 and lover boy higham 200 mileas away, he walked past me on friday after the match in needed to say something but like he did on the pitch i bottled it

Now now michael!!
Be fair to the blue eyed boy, he had a decent game on Friday, gelled with Orr the problem struck when the ball got to Moran. I think him and Orr would work well at 6 and 7.

[Mean Dean]

We wont get anything from our next four games as at this level you cant win a superleague game without a dominant half back and we just dont have one no matter what combination we play.I say put a bid in to bring back Faz we simply havent been the same without him no direction and no leadership.

[the grinch]

here is an idea why doesnt millward get all the players together and ask them where do they prefere to play! then before he forgets it someone could wright down all the answers and the team would pick itself.