Tonights Game v Catalans Dragons

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Dreamteam
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Re: Tonights Game v Catalans Dragons

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DaveO wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:21 pm
Caboosegg wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:15 pm
DaveO wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:01 pm Outplayed and out coached.

Powell was awful and they targeted him all night. He never got the pack on the front foot once.

We have played two sides in HKR and Catalan who aren’t anything special but who were well coached, organised and had a plan and we had no answer.

This is mid table form at best.
Your talking shite DaveO, Powell was not an issue tonight. To many errors everytime we had momentum and the came from our best players.
Oh dear. Angry because what everyone has been telling you about Powell being poor was on show tonight? Because it was. He was so slow with the ball literally nothing happened from him. That wasn’t anyone else’s fault but his.

Was he or was he not played off the park by Micky Mac? Don’t worry I don’t expect a straight answer. You never give one when it comes to him.
Shouldn’t it be a worry that we’re saying Powell did nothing wrong. How is a 9 not having an impact on the game at all. Like a statue from 9 slows the ball down to the half’s, obsessed with short balls that aren’t on 🗑
widdenoldboy
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Contrast Powell's performance against Micky Mac's.

MM ran the game.
Crossy210
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Re: Tonights Game v Catalans Dragons

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Dreamteam wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:23 pm
DaveO wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:21 pm
Caboosegg wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:15 pm

Your talking shite DaveO, Powell was not an issue tonight. To many errors everytime we had momentum and the came from our best players.
Oh dear. Angry because what everyone has been telling you about Powell being poor was on show tonight? Because it was. He was so slow with the ball literally nothing happened from him. That wasn’t anyone else’s fault but his.

Was he or was he not played off the park by Micky Mac? Don’t worry I don’t expect a straight answer. You never give one when it comes to him.
Shouldn’t it be a worry that we’re saying Powell did nothing wrong. How is a 9 not having an impact on the game at all. Like a statue from 9 slows the ball down to the half’s, obsessed with short balls that aren’t on 🗑
It’s all well and good doing nothing wrong but he also did very little right. It’s about time the club and a lot of fans accept he just isn’t that good. Maybe dropping him for a couple of weeks might help but I doubt it. Could get us on a roll zero speed at the play the ball with him behind it.
keptinthedarkfans
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Caboosegg wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:15 pm
DaveO wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:01 pm Outplayed and out coached.

Powell was awful and they targeted him all night. He never got the pack on the front foot once.

We have played two sides in HKR and Catalan who aren’t anything special but who were well coached, organised and had a plan and we had no answer.

This is mid table form at best.
Your talking shite DaveO, Powell was not an issue tonight. To many errors everytime we had momentum and the came from our best players.
He is not talking shit at all. Hkr and Catalan had a plan slowing game down and well organised worked perfect. We hadn't a clue no leaders or organisation Not Powell bashing tho because. Smith cus was as bad. All played mediocre at best need take a good hard look at themselves.
Wintergreen
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Re: Tonights Game v Catalans Dragons

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Way too early in the season to say if this will be a problem or not, but at the moment.

1. Our pack is too small.
2. Our 6,7,9,13 creativity is virtually non existent
3. We have 2 players who excel in SL, who WILL deliver more as the ground firm up.
4. KPP will get totally smashed in the NRL. I just hope that we are not in for him when he comes back with his tail between his legs.


The issue is that the above combinations make it difficult to play against decent teams.

If we struggle with #1 above, then if we didn't have #2 then this could at least partially offset it, but we do have #2. #3 partially covers up for it (as it did last year) but this is not an "every game" fix.
Suzieb
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Thought Mago had a good spell when he came on but our so called creative players did not perform and smithies is no 13 plays like an under weight prop gives away to many penalties when will he ever learn as soon as Isa left the right edge and replaced with KPP we replicated what we had at hkr and they scored poor coaching by MP
Mickw
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Re: Tonights Game v Catalans Dragons

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Our forwards were outplayed all night ,Mago made an impact but he's not on long enough, what Powell brings in attack just isn't good enough in today's game its as simple as that,we looked like this year's Warrington, tough game next week and these forwards have to do much better taking the ball up.
Suzieb
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We need to play young Forber at hooker he gives a good fast ball out of the ruck
Charriots Offiah
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Re: Tonights Game v Catalans Dragons

Post by Charriots Offiah »

keptinthedarkfans wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:31 pm
Caboosegg wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:15 pm
DaveO wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:01 pm Outplayed and out coached.

Powell was awful and they targeted him all night. He never got the pack on the front foot once.

We have played two sides in HKR and Catalan who aren’t anything special but who were well coached, organised and had a plan and we had no answer.

This is mid table form at best.
Your talking shite DaveO, Powell was not an issue tonight. To many errors everytime we had momentum and the came from our best players.
He is not talking shit at all. Hkr and Catalan had a plan slowing game down and well organised worked perfect. We hadn't a clue no leaders or organisation Not Powell bashing tho because. Smith cus was as bad. All played mediocre at best need take a good hard look at themselves.
Cust has been poor for some time. The real issue is that he is not a halfback- no creativity and no pace, he needs dropping. Powell needs to sit alongside him given his performances this season. Smith was poor tonight but he is having to dictate the play without any support, if he plays badly so does the team.

Onto the forwards. Collectively they are not good enough. We need to drop KPP off at Manchester Airport, his mind is elsewhere. Isa is past his sell by date and our props are average. Whilst I am not writing off the season, I think it will be difficult for us to lift silverware. We need a major overall, especially our overseas players. Quality, not quantity, is required. We are paying good money to some average players.
widdenoldboy
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Re: Tonights Game v Catalans Dragons

Post by widdenoldboy »

Appreciate that this was my impression but Ellis/Singleton didn't seem to have many minutes?

Our only options to fix the front row is to start with Ellis/ONeil/Mago and Farrell/Havard/Smithies behind them?
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