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Re: French
All three have been cleared to play in semi. Because the reserves grand final this Sunday counts
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Blackpool_Pie
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Good job Cullen and his boys didn't know that reserves rule. Now their work begins getting us kicked out of the Reserves final!
We at least know that if we want Kade in the GF he can't play in the semi!
We at least know that if we want Kade in the GF he can't play in the semi!
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Nothing mentioned about the high shot on young brad i see
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No idea how I missed this, I downloaded it and couldn't see it.josie andrews wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:43 pmBut Leigh are appealing it!
Leigh Leopards prop Tom Amone has been banned ahead of the play-offs, but Derek Beaumont has confirmed they will be appealing. The Dream Team inductee has received two separate charges but the Leigh owner confirmed they will be appealing both charges in the hope of freeing him for the contest against Hull KR.
Amone has been charged for a crusher tackle that was put on report as well as a tackle on Harry Smith during the club's controversial defeat to Wigan Warriors on Friday. That result, coupled with Rovers' big win over Wakefield Trinity, has resulted in the Leopards making the trip to Craven Park.
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... e-27785062
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We don’t need to name them they are automatically banned.EDINBURGH-WARRIOR wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:31 pm If anyone gets a ban from Friday's match can we name then in the reserve team squad for their final this week to use up the ban ???
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I'm embarrassed by Rugby League's reserves loophole and the sport needs to make critical changes
Wigan Warriors are the latest team to use the loophole to get out of trouble as three players escaped bans for the play-offs
The Reserve Loophole in Super League, which allows first-team players to serve suspended sentences in reserve games, has been a controversial topic in recent times. While this rant, and let's be honest it is a rant, may not be specifically targeted at any particular team, the ethical implications of this rule need serious reconsideration as we approach 2024.
While Wigan Warriors' recent utilisation of the rule to allow three players to not miss the play-offs, may have highlighted the issue, it's not just about one team; it's about the integrity of professional sports as a whole. The most glaring issue with the Reserve Loophole is the inconsistency and leniency it introduces to player suspensions.
Take for instance the case of Bevan French, considered one of the best players in the league. He received just a single-match ban for an incident involving touching an official. However, thanks to this loophole, his suspension essentially becomes inconsequential as he can now "miss" a reserve game. He walks away scot-free, and you can bet your life on him having a huge say in their semi-final next week.
To put it in perspective, imagine a similar scenario in football where a player receives a red card for a misconduct incident. Now picture a top-tier team like Manchester City stating that their star player, say, Erling Haaland was set to play in an Under-21 match against Aston Villa during his suspension period and the football association agrees to it. The absurdity of such a situation is apparent, and it's difficult to imagine it happening in any other professional sport.
The Reserve Loophole seems like a cop-out, a convenient way to allow the best players to be involved as much as possible, regardless of the disciplinary actions against them. It raises concerns about the integrity of the sport and whether the rules are being applied consistently and fairly.
One could argue that this loophole diminishes the deterrent effect of suspensions, as players may not take them as seriously, knowing they can effectively serve their bans without missing any significant first-team action.
It also undermines the role of the Match Review Panel (MRP) in assessing disciplinary actions. While there may be an effort to "ban" players, the knowledge that they can conveniently miss a reserve game makes the suspension seem like a mere formality.
The case of Wigan Warriors and their three players receiving one-match bans coinciding with a reserve game is a clear example of how this loophole can be exploited. It's not just about Wigan; other teams have and would follow suit if the rule remains unchanged. For instance, why shouldn't Warrington Wolves propose three reserve matches in a week to allow a key player like Paul Vaughan to play in crucial play-off games?
This situation raises fundamental questions about the credibility and fairness of the sport. If we continue to allow high-profile players to escape the consequences of their actions through such loopholes, it sends the wrong message to fans, sponsors, and the broader sports community. Rugby league is entering a critical phase in its history and incidents like this one only serve to undermine the sport's reputation and professionalism.
The "only in rugby league" excuse is no longer valid when it comes to addressing issues like the Reserve Loophole. It's time for the sport to take a hard look at itself and consider the long-term impact of such rules on its credibility. The integrity of the sport, as well as the trust of its fans, is at stake. That said, fans need to make their voices heard and not fall into the trap of letting amateur rules like this continue.
In conclusion, the Reserve Loophole is an issue that cannot be ignored any longer. It raises ethical concerns, undermines disciplinary measures and tarnishes the sport's reputation.
As we approach 2024, it's imperative that the relevant authorities and stakeholders re-evaluate this rule and take steps to ensure a fair and consistent application of disciplinary actions. The future of rugby league depends on its ability to maintain the highest standards of integrity and professionalism. The time for change is now.
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... s-27790131
Wigan Warriors are the latest team to use the loophole to get out of trouble as three players escaped bans for the play-offs
The Reserve Loophole in Super League, which allows first-team players to serve suspended sentences in reserve games, has been a controversial topic in recent times. While this rant, and let's be honest it is a rant, may not be specifically targeted at any particular team, the ethical implications of this rule need serious reconsideration as we approach 2024.
While Wigan Warriors' recent utilisation of the rule to allow three players to not miss the play-offs, may have highlighted the issue, it's not just about one team; it's about the integrity of professional sports as a whole. The most glaring issue with the Reserve Loophole is the inconsistency and leniency it introduces to player suspensions.
Take for instance the case of Bevan French, considered one of the best players in the league. He received just a single-match ban for an incident involving touching an official. However, thanks to this loophole, his suspension essentially becomes inconsequential as he can now "miss" a reserve game. He walks away scot-free, and you can bet your life on him having a huge say in their semi-final next week.
To put it in perspective, imagine a similar scenario in football where a player receives a red card for a misconduct incident. Now picture a top-tier team like Manchester City stating that their star player, say, Erling Haaland was set to play in an Under-21 match against Aston Villa during his suspension period and the football association agrees to it. The absurdity of such a situation is apparent, and it's difficult to imagine it happening in any other professional sport.
The Reserve Loophole seems like a cop-out, a convenient way to allow the best players to be involved as much as possible, regardless of the disciplinary actions against them. It raises concerns about the integrity of the sport and whether the rules are being applied consistently and fairly.
One could argue that this loophole diminishes the deterrent effect of suspensions, as players may not take them as seriously, knowing they can effectively serve their bans without missing any significant first-team action.
It also undermines the role of the Match Review Panel (MRP) in assessing disciplinary actions. While there may be an effort to "ban" players, the knowledge that they can conveniently miss a reserve game makes the suspension seem like a mere formality.
The case of Wigan Warriors and their three players receiving one-match bans coinciding with a reserve game is a clear example of how this loophole can be exploited. It's not just about Wigan; other teams have and would follow suit if the rule remains unchanged. For instance, why shouldn't Warrington Wolves propose three reserve matches in a week to allow a key player like Paul Vaughan to play in crucial play-off games?
This situation raises fundamental questions about the credibility and fairness of the sport. If we continue to allow high-profile players to escape the consequences of their actions through such loopholes, it sends the wrong message to fans, sponsors, and the broader sports community. Rugby league is entering a critical phase in its history and incidents like this one only serve to undermine the sport's reputation and professionalism.
The "only in rugby league" excuse is no longer valid when it comes to addressing issues like the Reserve Loophole. It's time for the sport to take a hard look at itself and consider the long-term impact of such rules on its credibility. The integrity of the sport, as well as the trust of its fans, is at stake. That said, fans need to make their voices heard and not fall into the trap of letting amateur rules like this continue.
In conclusion, the Reserve Loophole is an issue that cannot be ignored any longer. It raises ethical concerns, undermines disciplinary measures and tarnishes the sport's reputation.
As we approach 2024, it's imperative that the relevant authorities and stakeholders re-evaluate this rule and take steps to ensure a fair and consistent application of disciplinary actions. The future of rugby league depends on its ability to maintain the highest standards of integrity and professionalism. The time for change is now.
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... s-27790131
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Re: French
Ah I clearly remember this journislistic rant when saints did it. Or Warrington.
Instead of looking at the loopholes maybe make the disciplinary process and panel fit for purpose.
Ellis for example gets sited and banned for the smallest infraction but makinson gets a fine and no ban for reckless tackling resulting in a high tackle.
Instead of looking at the loopholes maybe make the disciplinary process and panel fit for purpose.
Ellis for example gets sited and banned for the smallest infraction but makinson gets a fine and no ban for reckless tackling resulting in a high tackle.
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2. We do know them.
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southportcdm
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I accept that the disciplinary are being far more active this season but, even if we don't always agree with their decisions, the players have to adapt to the 'new normal'. When the squad is being stretched to the limit by injuries, it's just not good enough having players sitting on the side-lines when they're fit to play. As much as I like Ellis, he's getting banned far too often and needs to do something about it. I think he's now clocked up at least six and possibly eight matches this season (please correct as required) and he has to improve that in future. I know that props are more likely to get the odd ban than other players but a couple of bans per season must be the acceptable limit.