Radders

[ancientnloyal]

El Rifle posted:
Wigan dont have time!

...but we have Whelans piggy bank

[yokozuna]

Ashton has been our best player this season. Although that isn't necessarily saying much.

It's no disrespect to him that there is even talk of Radders coming back. Arguably one of the best defensive full-backs of all time, and certainly the best in recent years.

If there's any truth in this rumour, then I would be delighted to have him back to help us stay up. I'm sure we wouldn't be where we are if he had been playing this season. Yes, with just that single difference, I reckon we would be well clear of the bottom - might be wrong, but that's the difference he would make to the team (IMHO).

As for Ashton, he would learn loads from Radders, and there are other positions he could play - on the wing or in the centre.

If he was to come back on a short-term basis, how do they work out the salary? Do they work it out on how much they pay per week pro rata the year, or go on the total amount paid? Whatever the case, I'm sure there's a way round the issue.

If his knee was that bad he had to retire, I think any talk of him coming back is fanciful, but I'd have him back in the cherry and white in a flash.

[DaveO]

adrenalinxx posted:
Ashton will be the Great Britain/England Full Back at some stage in his career he just need to gain experiance, bringing back Rads would just be a backwards step for Ashton.

How do you know? There are 14 games to go and he could simply crack under the pressure. That was why the ideal situation was Ashton covering for Rads while he was injured to get some experience and then making way for Rads to allow him (Ashton) to get a break. I don't see why that has changed.

If one thing is apparent at Wigan it is that relying on too many young players in the team is a big reason why we are where we are. It is no different with Ashton and expecting him to be as good at the end of a 28 game season as he has been up to now is asking a lot.

If Noble wants Rads back and he comes I will trust Nobles judgement on this one.

Dave

[thegimble]

If his health is not put at risk id have him back. A half fit Radlinski is a problem for not just the club but himself.

Id rather he stayed away if it means his health is putting in any unnecessary danger. If he is fit and healthy then hes a better player than Ashton.

Im not been unkind to CA but if Rads is back and fit then hes the best player in SL in his position.

If he is not fit. Then please stay away.

[GeoffN]

DaveO posted:

adrenalinxx posted:
Ashton will be the Great Britain/England Full Back at some stage in his career he just need to gain experiance, bringing back Rads would just be a backwards step for Ashton.

How do you know? There are 14 games to go and he could simply crack under the pressure. That was why the ideal situation was Ashton covering for Rads while he was injured to get some experience and then making way for Rads to allow him (Ashton) to get a break. I don't see why that has changed.

If one thing is apparent at Wigan it is that relying on too many young players in the team is a big reason why we are where we are. It is no different with Ashton and expecting him to be as good at the end of a 28 game season as he has been up to now is asking a lot.

If Noble wants Rads back and he comes I will trust Nobles judgement on this one.

Dave

Dobson is only 19 too, are you saying he isn't capable of playing the rest of the season for us?

[DaveO]

GeoffN posted:

DaveO posted:

adrenalinxx posted:
Ashton will be the Great Britain/England Full Back at some stage in his career he just need to gain experiance, bringing back Rads would just be a backwards step for Ashton.

How do you know? There are 14 games to go and he could simply crack under the pressure. That was why the ideal situation was Ashton covering for Rads while he was injured to get some experience and then making way for Rads to allow him (Ashton) to get a break. I don't see why that has changed.

If one thing is apparent at Wigan it is that relying on too many young players in the team is a big reason why we are where we are. It is no different with Ashton and expecting him to be as good at the end of a 28 game season as he has been up to now is asking a lot.

If Noble wants Rads back and he comes I will trust Nobles judgement on this one.

Dave

Dobson is only 19 too, are you saying he isn't capable of playing the rest of the season for us?

No but he hasn't played the previous 14 in the pressure cooker environment that is Wigan RLFC and more to the point what is the alternative?

If we have an alternative to Ashton in the form of Rads the arguments seem pretty logialc to use him.

If we could have signed a more experienced scrum half than Dobsom I am sure we would have.

Dave

[chrisJJ]

i think that radders should help ashton, give him avice, help him along

[adrenalinxx]

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Wigan have a full back i'd rather see Wigan spending money on another half back and a centre then bring back a player to replace one of our best players.

Bring back Rads would replace one good player Ashton, with another good player Rads but that won't change the team we need to have good players in other positions.

If Rads is going to come back Wigan should play him at centre or atleast play Ashton at centre. Wigan need all their best players on the pitch.

[FROM A TO B]

My pennies worth!
If Rads was to come back on a game by game basis, the long term benefits by letting Ashton learn from the Master would be tremendous.
Yes Ashton is a more than adequate FB, but he is still learning and is probabaly under more pressure than most, as this position is often the last line of defense.
I'm fairly sure if you asked Ashton, he would agree that having Rads back as a mentor would help his career no ends. It would also relieve some of the pressure on this young lad.
Finally, what a psychological boost to the team

[adrenalinxx]

FROM A TO B posted:
My pennies worth!
If Rads was to come back on a game by game basis, the long term benefits by letting Ashton learn from the Master would be tremendous.
Yes Ashton is a more than adequate FB, but he is still learning and is probabaly under more pressure than most, as this position is often the last line of defense.
I'm fairly sure if you asked Ashton, he would agree that having Rads back as a mentor would help his career no ends. It would also relieve some of the pressure on this young lad.
Finally, what a psychological boost to the team

I don't think there is much that Ashton can learn now from wathcing Rads. Ashton was probably grown up watching Rads, what Ashton need now is to be out there and learn from experiance. If Rads did come back in a coaching role then that would be ok but there is only so much you can learn from wathcing and talking and I think Ashton is at the stage were he can only learn from playing.