One town, two great clubs !

[Cruncher]

oldtimer posted:
cruncher.i suspect i was watching wigan rugby before you were BORN.I HAVE HAD A SEASON TICKET FOR THIRTY YEARS and have been a share holder for longer

Look, I don't know who you are and I'll never know, so all your blustering about watching Wigan RL for 30 years, 50 years, or whatever it is, means absolutely nothing. Even if I set you some testing questions regarding the Wigan team when I started watching it, in the early/mid 1960s, you could easily look up the answers, so that would prove nothing as well.

The point is simple. You don't seem to have anything good to say about Wigan RL. You seem far warmer towards Wigan Athletic. Now maybe that doesn't mean what I think it means. Maybe you're a genuine Warriors fan, but also a very forgiving one, who can see past all the abuse we've suffered at the hands of some of their supporters. Or maybe you genuinely follow both teams. Hell, maybe you're even Mr. Whelan, though he, I suspect, would be a tad more understanding of the Warriors fans' position.

But you sound suspiciously like the various Latics muppets who've been on here in the relatively recent past, disguised as Warriors fans and slowly and maliciously trying to stick the knife in.

If there are any Warriors fans who want to watch Latics, they'll either go already - I think the club reckons there are about 1,000 who currently do both - or they'll have taken the big guy up on his recent offer to watch the Watford game. But many of the Warriors folk who regularly post on here are not remotely interested in Latics and wouldn't go under any circumstances, so what is the point of you coming on here and arguing with them? You aren't going to change their minds. You aren't going to pressgang them into watching a game they don't like.

Go and watch the team you love, and quit this futile criticism of people whose only crime is that they have a different opinion from you.

[pedro]

I wouldnt that platic card would hurt!

[pedro]

oldtimer posted:
what have we won in the last TEN YEARS?

we being tha latics or we being the warriors?

[Mike]

Blaocking this thread now - it is just degenerating into name calling.

[Fraggle]

oldtimer posted:
i dont know what you mean by trolling

You should, because I've told you several times in the past. Your stance really confuses me. Whilst I'm happy to see that, for once, you're not going on about the club making up its attendance figures, I can't see the relevance behind comparing our crowds to Saints, or the Latics for that matter. What the Latics do has little if any impact on the rugby at all. We've not been kicked out of the stadium "because of Premiership rules", we've not seen masses of fans defect to watching the Latics, as our increased crowds go to show. We're more than standing on our own 26 feet and quite frankly what Mr Whelan's other teams does not in any way affect us at all. We're a smaller sport with lower costs that our large (compared to the rest of our sport) fanbase contribute a large proportion to. Such is not the case in soccer where single players cost more than our entire team, the economies involved are very different and the income generated by crowds very different, no matter how many people turn up.

As for your comments about Saints, this I find very hard to understand. As a non-Wiganer, indeed as someone from a town that barely understands the concept of competitive sport, I'm perhaps a bit naive, but isn't the whole point of supporting a club team, especially for as many years as you say, that you should loyally support the team through good times and bad, not change allegience just because another team is winning trophies? Yes, at the moment Saints are the best team in the league, but especially with only three competitions there can only be at best 3 teams out 12 winning something (and for the World Club Challenge, it's down to potentially one out of the 12). I have chosen to support Wigan, the closest professional RL team to my old home town, and will do so no matter how good or bad they play, or how successful or not other teams are. The day I start caring about St Helens is the day I should sell my Wigan shirt because I must have lost interest in my own team. I'm surprised someone as supportive for all those years isn't the same.

Incidentally, did we get relegated this year, or is it just my imagination that we ended up only slightly worse off in the table this year than we did last year...? I'm not going to pretend it's been a good year, or that some of the performances were not terrible, but overall has it really been the worst year in the 50 years you have been supporting the team?


And blocked, Mike's less forgiving than me this morning!