Overseas Quota

[OAMJSONA]

What do you think about this topic

Lets stop all overseas players coming to this country and concentrate on producing our own talent once again and give them a fair chance at proving themselves.

Too many good young players have been passed by over the years for in main and certainly these days at best average antipodean players

[mike binder]

3 should be the limit ,kolpack ,aussie, kiwi or irish thats the lot

[nathan_rugby]

I think there should be a few as it brings something different to our game.
What would we do with the overseas players over here? Stop all ongoing contracts from 2010. Then after that date everybody goes home.
What would we do with players like pat richards who has an irish passport ?

I think there should be a team of players who WAS BORN IN UNITED KINGDOM and 3 players who WAS BORN OUTSIDE UK.

[DaveO]

OAM posted:
What do you think about this topic

Lets stop all overseas players coming to this country and concentrate on producing our own talent once again and give them a fair chance at proving themselves.

I would not ban overseas players completely but keep it at three but it should be three only i.e. if you are a Kolpak you count on the quota etc.

Too many good young players have been passed by over the years for in main and certainly these days at best average antipodean players

With a quota of three it would force clubs to use it wisely and bring on UK players as opposed to the easy option of always looking overseas. Hopefully the quality of the three quota players at each club would improve the game here without forcing out UK players. Signing a Barrett instead of a DV if you like.

If we could limit the quota some would say the quality of the competition would go down but I am not so sure it would and for how long.

But even it it did - so what? It would be the same for every club.

Dave

[Likely_Lad]

nathan_rugby posted:
I think there should be a few as it brings something different to our game.
What would we do with the overseas players over here? Stop all ongoing contracts from 2010. Then after that date everybody goes home.
What would we do with players like pat richards who has an irish passport ?

I think there should be a team of players who WAS BORN IN UNITED KINGDOM and 3 players who WAS BORN OUTSIDE UK.

You can't just do that. For example, my dad was born in France, but is still very much a Wiganer, making him British.

[GeoffN]

Unfortunately, excluding Kolpaks is illegal.

I do like the idea that was suggested on RLFans of a sliding scale within the salary cap - that might be ok legally.

[jaws1]

I agree with 3 overseas players ie Aus NZ Kolpack but with players who hold an EU passport we cannot refuse them .

[cpwigan]

3 Overseas Players. You must never ban them outright. That happened before and we fell years behind the aussies. Offer salary cap benefits to clubs per GB eligible player in their 20/25 and playing over X number of games in a season.

[DaveO]

jaws1 posted:
I agree with 3 overseas players ie Aus NZ Kolpack but with players who hold an EU passport we cannot refuse them .

Clubs tend to offer players jobs rather than advertise and then interview as goes on in normal employment. That is quite a significant difference because they would not be refusing to take on a player who had "applied" for a job because clubs simply don't advertise them as with a normal job.

Put another way if my company refused to employ someone because he was French having advertised the job in the computing press they could be done for it.

If however they "head hunted" a specific individual there is no law against that. Companies do it all the time. And in effect that is exactly how RL clubs sign players.

Millward has suggested some sort of gentlemen's agreement be implemented where clubs simply did not employ more than three overseas players and in effect "head hunted" the ones they wanted.

While this appears legal it probably would break down quite quickly as you can guarantee one club would fall out of line and all the others follow.

So as Geoff said some rule is needed to gives club ab incentive to employ UK players over overseas ones rather than a simple "we won't if you won't" agreement.

But if we could put some such rule in place I think it would be great for the game.

Dave

[adrenalinxx]

I think that the SL does need some overseas players playing in the league as some do bring alot to the English game and it also keep some Aussies interesting in the SL BUT the current situation with overseas players is getting out of control every player seems to have some links with EU or Kolpak allowing clubs to bring in so many overseas players.

Overseas players should be people who play for NZ or Australia, players who play for developing nationals should not be considered overseas because as long as they are representing a developing country it can only help that country if they have people in Super League.

For example Pat Richards should be considered an overseas player unless he plays for Ireland.

Feka should be overseas because he plays for NZ, he should only be classed as Kolpak is he played for someone like Tonga or Samoa.