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Correction.MrDave wrote:As Wigan fans we can't really call Wire cheats when they haven't broken any rules considering Wigan have broken the rules more than any other team.
The fact Wire have not been 'caught' breaking the rules could be because they are not breaking the rules.butt monkey wrote:Correction.MrDave wrote:As Wigan fans we can't really call Wire cheats when they haven't broken any rules considering Wigan have broken the rules more than any other team.
Wigan have been caught breaking/contravening rules to the "spirit" of the game. Just because Warrington have not been "caught" does not mean that there are no illicit dealings by them! There is a difference.
Does this mean that a murderer who has not been caught is not a murderer by the same logic?MrDave wrote:The fact Wire have not been 'caught' breaking the rules could be because they are not breaking the rules.butt monkey wrote:Correction.MrDave wrote:As Wigan fans we can't really call Wire cheats when they haven't broken any rules considering Wigan have broken the rules more than any other team.
Wigan have been caught breaking/contravening rules to the "spirit" of the game. Just because Warrington have not been "caught" does not mean that there are no illicit dealings by them! There is a difference.
By no means, it would just mean that innocent people are not branded as murderers, you can't catch a murderer if no murder has been committed.butt monkey wrote:Does this mean that a murderer who has not been caught is not a murderer by the same logic?MrDave wrote:The fact Wire have not been 'caught' breaking the rules could be because they are not breaking the rules.butt monkey wrote: Correction.
Wigan have been caught breaking/contravening rules to the "spirit" of the game. Just because Warrington have not been "caught" does not mean that there are no illicit dealings by them! There is a difference.
This might be about "creativity" as far as using the ambiguity of a salary cap and the ability to "bend/twist" payments in order for them to not count. A good accountant and great legal team will always beat the law/system!
they are cheating end ofGod wrote:Moimoi is is going to take Paul Rauhihi's contract because hes retiring. (36) unless Paul is a top earner at the club which is highly unlikely how will they top Moimois wages up??jammie wrote:so to fit all these players under the salary cap NEXT SEASON exactly who is leaving to make room,because the rumor i heard was that when matt king was takeing a massive chunk of there salary cap budjet.
Hes a top earner at Para with the likes of Hindmarsh and Eric Groth and with the star players Warrington have it just seems like something fishy is going on. Then i read the treats his family are getting, 02 arena gigs for free with the full works and it clicked.
Hes not employing family and friends etc within the club hes giving family freebes out of his own back pocket which wont count on the cap and there is no way of accounting for it.
The salary cap may be live but his nemourus other banks not connected with the salary cap wont be live and he can do whatever he pleases with his money, thats a fact.
Do you really think the people behind the salary cap will have all of his bank accounts on record?? because i for one dont think they do. Maybe the clubs bank account and rightly so but not his personal LLoyds Tsb platinum plus bank account. Or whatever he has, probably Austrian bank account.
Can you imagine it. Why have you taken £300,000 out of your bank account. "My Mrs needed a new ring", Have you got the reciept??? "No". How can they proove anything when the players have Australian bank accounts anyway, they would have to accuse players of reciving money from false means, that would open up a massive can of worms the rfl wont be able to handle, so they just leave it.
Which I think is most fan's opinion regardless of whether the RFL care to investigate this correctly or not.ian b wrote:they are cheating end of
) Yet STILL be under the salary cap? correctbutt monkey wrote:Which I think is most fan's opinion regardless of whether the RFL care to investigate this correctly or not.ian b wrote:they are cheating end of
How can a side be filled with internationals from NZ/Australia/GB etc, from 2-13 (disregarding Mathers
Are these players so desperate to play so cheaply for Warrington that all other club's offers fade into obscurity when contracts are mentioned? Or are they simply signing for the club because they can offer the best deals because they can circumvent the cap better than any other?
But things like that do count on the cap. If a player or his family receive any benefits in kind the RFL deem to be as a result of his contract with a club it goes onto his salary cap value no matter who pays it.God wrote: Hes not employing family and friends etc within the club hes giving family freebes out of his own back pocket which wont count on the cap and there is no way of accounting for it.
So why aren't all the clubs doing exactly the same thing? If the salary cap was this easy to get around it would not be worth the paper it's written on. Why did we go to the lengths we did under Mo not to break it? Why not just do as you suggest and get Dave Whelan to make the payments you are saying the Wire chairman is making?The salary cap may be live but his nemourus other banks not connected with the salary cap wont be live and he can do whatever he pleases with his money, thats a fact.
The idea a chairman can pay players a back hander and it not come out eventually is just not realistic.Can you imagine it. Why have you taken £300,000 out of your bank account. "My Mrs needed a new ring", Have you got the reciept??? "No". How can they proove anything when the players have Australian bank accounts anyway, they would have to accuse players of reciving money from false means, that would open up a massive can of worms the rfl wont be able to handle, so they just leave it.