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Im sorry but i dont just agree that it those 2 i aint gonna go into who else i think but there are others and there are others that get into the team on there names. The only players that i think are giving 100% at the mo are lammy and nick graham. As for the rest i think that they should all be wary of being dropped but u know with some that it will never happen!!!!!

The whole point of this message board is that it is for discussions. If you have a gripe about a player then tell the world. You are entitled to your opinion just like everybody else.

I respect you opinion on PJ but i just don't agree.

Ok then i will give ya my point well i think that farrell is over rated he tries to do too much on the pitch he has the same 2 moves that never work that every super league player coach fan and supporter knows and when he kicks of it is to the same place every time. But yet he is never slated or being the threat of being dropped

I think that other players arent given enough praise the ones that go out and give there all every week but it will be the same ones whho get all the credit.

That's better get it off your chest!

I agree with what you say about Faz. Some of the time he is to 1 dimensional and you know exactly what he is going to do. While he was injured we were playing better ( more expansive ) rugby, sometimes when he is on the pitch we play safety first but, you cannot leave Faz out altogether - he is a world class player.

However, sometimes he does play like he knows he is always going to be picked, maybe if he doesn't perfoem well over a couple of games stick him on the bench and see if that does the trick.

At the end of the day we do need Faz ( when he is on form ) so the chances of him being dropped are slim to none.

Dont worry i got it of me chest me feels so much better now all the days stresses have now gone maybe i should have a rant more often.

Atleast we agree on somethings.

Ur just gonna have to hope there r no ricky bibey fans that read ur past posts or they will be aving a go at ya.LOL

All right, let's break this up - I agree with Deltic.
I think he just hasn't performed well enough to keep a place in the first 17. When you have enthusiasm from players like Kevin Brown and Luke Robinson knocking on the door, then you can't justify his average performances and keeping a place.
Also...just for the record, Faz does get some stick from the fans. All that you have to do is look through the older threads on this site and you'll see it. I am guilty of it myself. Prior to the Saints match he was quite average, but seemed to lift his game....you never know....pray enough and Johnson might do the same, but I doubt it.

Without wishing to turn a topic about PJ into one on AF. I do have to say the 'adventure' from Wigan's play did disappear when some of the more senior players returned to the side... AF key amongst them.

For the record I am a fan of Mr Farrell and still think he remains a vital player/skipper for us.

Also I fear whilst PJ has had some good games and been selected for rep honours I feel he is not of the calibre required for Wigan to emulate past glories. Same goes for Hodgson.
Also I fear whilst PJ has had some good games and been selected for rep honours I feel he is not of the calibre required for Wigan to emulate past glories. Same goes for Hodgson.

i agree hodgson is a player who had much potential and has done nothing now for 2 seasons. Paul Johnson i feel had better wake up coz i know for a fact that the way things are going he will begone for the start of next season. raper won keep him.

wanny posted:
i agree hodgson is a player who had much potential and has done nothing now for 2 seasons.

Erm, isn't Dodgy our top try scorer this season? Given how erratic we've been playing that's quite important. Even if he does nothig else I'd be happy to have him on the pitch for that reason. Personally I think he has more good days than bad ones, and defensively he seems pretty good. Of course, he probably played rubbish on Sunday but I wasn't there so don't know, but I've been a lot more impressed with him than with PJ this year.

Interesting to notice people saying PJ hasn't had good service, yet Hodgeson has seen plenty of the ball this year despite usually playing on the left where our much-maligned captain plays...