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Re: Flower Charged
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:29 pm
by Rochdale Warrior
And what about Cockyne today , same ref , more dangerous , elbow , late, to the head , caused more injury , no 10mins , no red card, and people say there is no agenda against Wigan
Re: Flower Charged
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:13 pm
by old hooker
Flower is becoming a liability, deserves what he got, he cost us a GF win and could have lost us this game.Get rid we have plenty props.
Re: Flower Charged
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:40 pm
by pedro
agreed
Re: Flower Charged
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:10 pm
by Wiganer Ted
Don't agree.
Flower was sent off in the 2014 GF and so should Hohaia.
The match officials incompetence lost us that GF.
In the Wire game the ref saw it once and it looked dreadful.
OK on slo mo replays it doesn't appear that dangerous but he should have controlled his run and tackle better.
Flower has recently signed a four year deal, he is a very good prop and should remain at Wigan.
Re: Flower Charged
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:23 am
by Josie's friend
Wiganer Ted wrote:Don't agree.
Flower was sent off in the 2014 GF and so should Hohaia.
The match officials incompetence lost us that GF.
In the Wire game the ref saw it once and it looked dreadful.
OK on slo mo replays it doesn't appear that dangerous but he should have controlled his run and tackle better.
Flower has recently signed a four year deal, he is a very good prop and should remain at Wigan.
It comes back to first punch 10 min sin bin max, second instant red. Hohaia was never getting sent off and neither was Ben until the second punch on the floor.
Since then we've had the punch to the back of a players head when he returned (he claimed on social media he was trying to pull him back)and now this. Stat-wise he his behind the rest of the props so he'll be no loss if he goes.
Re: Flower Charged
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:41 am
by fozzieskem
Just my two penneth worth i dont think Flower has been the same player since that GF,not liabilty but has stood still and not pushed on as i thought he was going too.
Time to get rid? i dont know to be honest,he doesnt do anything wrong but he doesnt stand out either a strange one either way.
Re: Flower Charged
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:50 am
by cpwigan
I think Benny is a quality player but these 'brain farts' are worrying.
Re: Flower Charged
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:53 am
by TrueBlueWarrior
cpwigan wrote:I think Benny is a quality player but these 'brain farts' are worrying.
Correct use of the phrase 'brain fart' there!!
Re: Flower Charged
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:50 pm
by fozzieskem
cpwigan wrote:I think Benny is a quality player but these 'brain farts' are worrying.
Honestly I say with some bias that when they're fit Clubb and Crosby are better than Benny,that's just me.
Re: Flower Charged
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:27 pm
by cpwigan
Each to their own Fozzie. Neither is right/wrong. IMO, Benny is the cornerstone prop at Wigan. I am not a huige Clubb fan. He reminds me of Nick Du Toit back in the day in that everybody loves his wholhearted no regard for his own welfare blood and guts play but it is high risk. I hated what Benny did at Wire as I documented. For me;
FPN and Benny are our starting props, Crosby is our interchange to offer exactly what they do and Tea Bag is our impact, little bit different prop whi can even interchange in the back row. I would look at Sutton and Bretherton as props 5 and 6 which means offlioad Mossop and Clubb.
7 Props is overkill when a centre and/or winger would be a better position to strengthen.