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josie andrews wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:08 pm

the pieman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:27 pm Genuine question from the game on Saturday. Not sure at what time Matty made the change in the 1st half, but Hampshire went off, Eckersley on and Keighran into 6

did it work? i know the negative answer is no because we got beat, but genuinely, was there any improvement in either the way we moved the ball, defended where Hampshire was previously?

i've seen posters calling for Keighran at 6 for a couple of weeks and i'm unsure whether that is the answer or not - happy to be convinced either way

Hampshire got an arm injury. But given we got beat it’s hard to tell especially as Adam hasn’t played much at 6 for us.

Hoping for a surprise when the team is announced

Cheers Josie

i noticed Eckersley on the pitch and immediately thought Field must have gone off, but saw him pretty quickly so it took me a minute to work out the change

It would be nice, but can we afford 2 star players not 100% fit. I'd rather wait another week if its touch and go, and give him every chance to play the week after

josie andrews wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:08 pm

the pieman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:27 pm Genuine question from the game on Saturday. Not sure at what time Matty made the change in the 1st half, but Hampshire went off, Eckersley on and Keighran into 6

did it work? i know the negative answer is no because we got beat, but genuinely, was there any improvement in either the way we moved the ball, defended where Hampshire was previously?

i've seen posters calling for Keighran at 6 for a couple of weeks and i'm unsure whether that is the answer or not - happy to be convinced either way

Hampshire got an arm injury. But given we got beat it’s hard to tell especially as Adam hasn’t played much at 6 for us.

Hoping for a surprise when the team is announced

That means bevan .Get in josie

Mouse13 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:48 am

archiekeith wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:22 am

Beryl O'Neill wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:20 pm Farrimond need's to be given a chance if he had been earlier like eckersley hope I've spelt the name right he would have gained the experience and helped the other players Fresh legs etc Some of the team don't seem to want to play attack none existent.Coaching fault that the team are so tired should have used younger players rotated more sensibly Head Coach must take responsibility for that he must have final say in who plays and doesn't play.Lets hope it doesn't come up and bite him on the backside.

I don't get the"so tired" bit. They are professionals ,fit young men or supposed to be. If not that's as you imply the conditioning/ coaching. I've recently witnessed 3xweeks of the Tour de France the most gruelling sport there is The cyclists exhibit fitness,strength, determination etc If anyone of our players don't live upto these tenets They should be shown the door.

Have you ever played the game??? Obviously not. Its not the fitness and conditioning that is the issue, its the contacts the players make.
An hard tackle can equate to a car crash, and to do that say on average 30 x a game. That equals 90 car crashes in 9 days, even superman might be a bit sore and tired after that.

I would love to see a cyclist keep getting back on the bike after that many hits

the pieman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:27 pm Genuine question from the game on Saturday. Not sure at what time Matty made the change in the 1st half, but Hampshire went off, Eckersley on and Keighran into 6

did it work? i know the negative answer is no because we got beat, but genuinely, was there any improvement in either the way we moved the ball, defended where Hampshire was previously?

i've seen posters calling for Keighran at 6 for a couple of weeks and i'm unsure whether that is the answer or not - happy to be convinced either way

I don't think that was the game to really judge any player really. Keighran struggled to chase down Rhys Martin's break for the first try and while he's not rapid he's not slow either. He looked knackered right from the start.

I would be one of those in favour of Keighran playing in the halves though. He was a halfback as a junior, played a fair amount in the halves and centre before coming to Super League. He played some games for Catalans in the halves last season and looked good. For me he's much more natural playing on the left edge so having him replace Smith on the left side would be my preferred option.

Ideally Bevan French returns soon to partner him, but if not I'd say it's a choice between Hampshire and Farrimond (with Leeming another possible option if Forber is fit enough to play long minutes).

I just watched the full game. Which wasn't much fun. Leeds were sharper and better in every department. Defence and discipline both poor, and I wasn't surprised to see MP for once visibly annoyed by that.

moto748 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:25 pm I just watched the full game. Which wasn't much fun. Leeds were sharper and better in every department. Defence and discipline both poor, and I wasn't surprised to see MP for once visibly annoyed by that.

Actually, was anyone else surprised to see Matty Peet reacting so strongly to a bad scrum play in the first half at 0-0? I was and the commentary team were too. I'm probably reading too much into it, but I've not seen Peet react like that before especially early in a game. He seems a bit rattled and he does coach from a position of fear. I hope this is a learning experience and not a sign of weakness in the coaching team. You learn more from a loss than from any victory

I may be stepping into dangerous territory here, but does anyone else think Wigan players (and skipper) could do with treating the officials with a bit more courtesy? Faz always seems sullen, and seldom makes eye-contact with the ref when he's talking to him. Staying on the right side of the ref is just common-sense; some skippers do it very well.

moto748 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:02 pm I may be stepping into dangerous territory here, but does anyone else think Wigan players (and skipper) could do with treating the officials with a bit more courtesy? Faz always seems sullen, and seldom makes eye-contact with the ref when he's talking to him. Staying on the right side of the ref is just common-sense; some skippers do it very well.

No I agree while sone refs seemingly come across a bellends they,for the most part do get it right and to me an important part of any team is as you say being courteous to the man in the middle,something has slipped into wigans game this season in this regard ot needs stopping sooner rather than later

fozzie58 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:40 am

moto748 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:02 pm I may be stepping into dangerous territory here, but does anyone else think Wigan players (and skipper) could do with treating the officials with a bit more courtesy? Faz always seems sullen, and seldom makes eye-contact with the ref when he's talking to him. Staying on the right side of the ref is just common-sense; some skippers do it very well.

No I agree while sone refs seemingly come across a bellends they,for the most part do get it right and to me an important part of any team is as you say being courteous to the man in the middle,something has slipped into wigans game this season in this regard ot needs stopping sooner rather than later

i think generally the players are fine with refs, but Harry Smith in particular in multiple games this year has questioned the ref. he was at it quite early in the game at weekend and has shown a little petulance when it hasnt been going right for him

we all know that the ref is always right, and unlikely to ever change a decision, certainly not off the back of a player questioning him, however, as captain, Faz has the right to speak to the ref, and perhaps say his piece i.e. they are getting away with messing around the the potb, slowing our play down, but you are pinging us etc etc. Depending on the ref, they may take no notice, but it may just get into the refs head, and he speeds up our potb (note this is just an example of what could be said)

archiekeith wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 11:59 am Well that's told me Josie didn't think punching was in the rules tho' Josie Caveat. Try cycling over +*- 100 K's dayin day out fo three weeks in blistering heat or freezing cold

I like how you always reply with a sarcastic comment to me when I reply to your posts but when one of the guys mention your posts you seem to go quiet!