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cpwigan wrote:A cheerleader doth not maketh a RL player

Why are people so desparate to praise certain players.

Analysis of his match - Negative (Pelo mugged him for try 1) Positive (Scored his 2nd try of the season. A set move. He only had to run. Phelps could have done the same from FB but with greater ease)

He never broke a tackle on a kick return. A huge weakness in his game. I thought he covered kick returns quite well. I do not think he could be blamed for not stopping the French forward who scored after Fielden missed him.

So Mathers missed a tackle, finished off a set move. Nothing else. Oh and he screamed like Meg Ryan in a movie (Sleepless in Seattle?)

Can we have praise where praise is due.

The grumpy old git :shau:

God wrote:Were you are on the negative side of things im on the positive side although what you do say regards negative is spot on. I like to make positives out of it though hahaha.

I have said time and time again, i like players to ram my critism down my throat, and unlike some posters they still maintain they are correct even though they are clearly wrong to "save face".
My early season issue was Fielden, I gave him so much abuse about his peformances and compairing it to what he was getting paid and at the time it was justified no matter how positive you are, now hes ramming my comments down my throat and im glad.

Which brings me onto Mathers,this is the only thing regards the players i 100% dont agree with you, tonight i thought he played very well his form is returning and his enthusiasm was there to see. Saved 3 trys and scored.
He was wrong footed for Pelos try but made up for it by scoring one ironicly beating Pelo to the line.
His positioning is spot on even the commentators mentioned it, he out played Greenshields who has more tackles bust than any other player this year.
So my question is WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM HIM? because i am at a loss.

He wants to play for Wigan and if he returns to NRL and Leeds form we have a bargin no dubt. Get behind him, give him encouragement and he will be the next England number 1 when the slug retires.

cpwigan wrote: A full back must kick return to a level where he breaks the first line or at worst achieves a favourable and fast play of the ball to let the set get on a roll. The first hit up in any set often determines the whole set. Mathers gets hammered or has to become a worm.

A full back must score tries. In modern RL the fullback often outscores the wingers.

On those basis Mathers fails.

If people watch the team and say in 2009 or beyond if we are to become a great team what needs to happen. FB would be one area where we need far more.

jackoh wrote:The bottom line is , he can`t tackle ,
This is what he`s there for , He`s got pace with the ball in hand and yesterday he showed it .
I can`t understand why we`ve retained him as he`s not a top class full back .

cpwigan wrote:Fulbacks should be amongst the highest paid players in every team. The position is now far more important than it ever was. Hooker, Halfback and Fullback are the 3 key positions.

As for fullbacks. There's an aboriginee called Walker at the Titans. He's young. I bet they would loan him for a season. He is amongst if not the fastest player (s) in the NRL. His main forte is attack. He would go better in SL than the NRL.

"Shannon has been playing poorly and does not deserve selection," a forthright Cartwright said. "There are a few options, including Ben Jeffery. Mat Rogers will stay at five-eighth because he and Scott Prince have worked well together there."

Walker, The Courier-Mail's 2007 Queensland Cup player of the year, has played only three NRL games this year, and in recent weeks has struggled in the Toyota Cup under-20 side, particularly under the high ball.

There are suggestions the 19-year-old has not come to terms with the demands of being a professional footballer but club officials remain confident he will prove a good investment. "We will be patient with Shannon," Titans managing director Michael Searle said.

"We have signed him until 2012 and no one here doubts his ability. We'll have a chat to him at the end of the season about the way things have gone this year but it's just one of those things. Some players come through quicker than others."