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How do you come to that conclusion?

SA isnt as fast as Roberts either, he has good acceleration but not raw pace. Lets not second guess as we just stuffed Saints and every one of the 17 played their part. Roberts was excellent when Saints broke and he covered the winger than chased and caught the man when he pinned his ears back, he also did very well for the Lockers try.

simple answer to the initial question:

Drop Roberts.

Ainy is scoring tries.
PostmanPat is scoring tries.
Misserable Roberts isn't....

as anybody thought noble would rest sam tomkings?

if we rest sam we are able to play phelps,rihcards,ainscough and roberts

play phelps at 6 either starting or on the bench to interchange with McIlorum

richards at full back and ainscough and roberts on the wings

just a though

It`s a nice position to be in .
If We can keep the morale up , we will have cover in all the back positions .
THis will envariably focus on Ainscough`s position on the wing as we have 2 other experienced wingers .
I believe he`ll play in more games than he`ll miss .
The main thing is keeping thew squads motivation up ,
A winning run and cup run could do this .
So stuffing the Stains is a good start

pieater-alex wrote:

turf wrote:Would you put Ainscough back int he side after Richards's performance tonight. Two tries and 7/7 conversions.

Another selection dilema for Noble if you ask me.

PS: Ainscough looked a bit pi**ed off hugging Noble at the end!!

Noble has played this very well. Ainscough is now fresh and will be desperate to impress.

Desperate to impress? What else has he been doing all season? Given he has played as well as he has, if he tries any harder he may well end up trying too hard and making mistakes. The again after scoring 4 tries and getting dropped he might just conclude nothing he does will get him selected and be discouraged and that would not be a surprising outcome.

He should simply have dropped Roberts for the Saints game. That would have been playing things correctly IMO because hew would gave been picking on form and rewarding Ainscough's success. I can't see any justification for Noble having done otherwise including the result.

Dave

Dave, please explain why Roberts should have been dropped. To me it is illogical. Noble as coach selects a wining team but some cannot accept Noble can coach. Hopefully this win will shut up the gobby spectators like the one behind me in Barrow. The wheels came off the "Sack Nobby bandwagon. OK the first infringement they will refit the wheels but as of now that is thee situation. It has left the doubters with a problem of rebuilding their credibility. Even theplayers have asked for time. Three wins. Long may it last.
Jim

The question is incorrect.

Should Ainscough play and where / if so who should make way is the real question. Wigan best backline / 17 are key questions.

Noble, right or wrong one cannot value his word and therein lies his greatest problem. Players do not trust him. Remember his election on merit quotes pre / early season. Now even if you are a gullible Noble disciple even they must recognise true to his word is not a Brian Noble forte.

medlocke wrote:

turf wrote:

cumbria_warrior wrote:What a nice dilema to have which of two very good players to pick, what about letting ainscough play his natural side? Dont think for a min though that ainscough would of struggled tonight

Neither do I. I reckon he'd have scored three more tries tonight because we'd have utilised his speed.

but how dodgy would he have been in defence

I suspect that he would be no worse than Gardner.

because the spotlight was so brighty on ainscough this weekend, if Saints had put pressure on him and he'd gad shocker, then it could easily have finished his season, confidence damaged, but more importantly given every club a blueprint of how to play against him - after a few weeks of being put under constant pressure of being targetted who knows what might happn to ayoung player?
If any team are capable of applying pressure on a player then it's saints.

He can now come back into the team under far less scrutiny and perform his usual game. The great thing about this season is that we have players who can come and do a good job -i can't see how anyone can complain about Phelps or Pat coming into the team, and Amos certainly helped keep the score down and saints out of the game.

Nobby dropped smith for some very poor displays in defence where everyone was talking about targetting him, and therefore all teams did target him, now he's back in the team after the pressure on him was eased, 3 MoM performances and is a key to wigans season - good management from noble imo.

Noble took all the risk on himself for this game which is what you get paid for as a coach - not to do what the fans say you should. If we lose he gets all the blame, if we win it's despite not picking ainscough.

i was one who thought nobby to be mad to drop ainsough,but on reflection he had a game plan to beat stains,and to play that way it didn't include aincough in the side.life is tough in top level sport,and alex ferguson does it week in week out it doesn't matter if you are the worlds best player if you don't fit in to the game plan he has in mind you don't play.we as fans and any other player have to accept that who ever is the coach if they have a game plan then at some point they might have to step down for the good of the team,that is what they are paid to do,i am sure we could all pick what we think is our strongest team on paper,but some times a game comes along that dictates you have to play it differently,and some times that means a player with some different qualitys comes into the team,that is just what happens in a team sport,and players and fans have to accept that.