The blame game

[turf]

Im not so sure with some of the decisions ive seen over the last few years....... :conf:

More like this year alone ey Reevezie 2.0.0.8.

Especially the video referees!!!!

They have been shocking!!!!

[cpwigan]

Stuart Cummings has been on the phone Turf. He wants your name and address

[turf]

Stuart Cummings has been on the phone Turf. He wants your name and address

ok (!)

[OAMJSONA]

Jim

You make a good point about the refs we have had our spats over the last couple of years but may be just may be some of the Wigan Rugby League club supporters are content with what they are seeing.

I for one am not

The standard of refereeing like the standard of rugby at professional level in this country in MY opinion as been on the decline since super league was formed
lets get it right the refs have a thank less task anyway and i have berated them as much as anyone.

i have not scored any ref we have had this season as more than 6 out of ten

[Reevezie 2.0.0.8]

Im not so sure with some of the decisions ive seen over the last few years....... :conf:

More like this year alone ey Reevezie 2.0.0.8.

Especially the video referees!!!!

They have been shocking!!!!

Your right Turf! I mean as a whole, the standard of ref's has been on the decline, not just against Wigan but accross the board (although i do notice more if it happens in a Wigan game) and again, to agree with you turf, video ref's are usualy the worse some bad blatant decisions IMO

Ahh feel better now lol

[Reevezie 2.0.0.8]

Stuart Cummings has been on the phone Turf. He wants your name and address

You can give him mine why your at it......... :exc:

[robjoenz]

The standard of refereeing like the standard of rugby at professional level in this country in MY opinion as been on the decline since super league was formed
lets get it right the refs have a thank less task anyway and i have berated them as much as anyone.

What is the key thing you would like to see improved regarding refereeing OAM and how do you think it could be improved?

[GeoffN]

The standard of refereeing like the standard of rugby at professional level in this country in MY opinion as been on the decline since super league was formed
lets get it right the refs have a thank less task anyway and i have berated them as much as anyone.

What is the key thing you would like to see improved regarding refereeing OAM and how do you think it could be improved?

For me, it's consistency in how strictly the rules are enforced. It always seems that from week to week, and from ref to ref, different things are concentrated on, and other things let slip. One day it'll be the 10-metres, another it will be the PTB, another day forward passes. the last few weks, for example, have seen numerous instances of markers not being square, yet they're rarely punished these days.

Similarly with tackles being completed, especially when a player is being dragged backwards or into touch. There was one occasion last week when one of our players (Carmont? not sure) was being taken into touch, another (Phelps?) "lent weight" to prevent it, but they were still allowed to continue and take him over the touchline. Later in the game, in a similar situation (but towards the try line), the tackle was called held before the line was reached, as soon as another player arrived to "lend weight".

[turf]

For me, it's consistency in how strictly the rules are enforced. It always seems that from week to week, and from ref to ref, different things are concentrated on, and other things let slip. One day it'll be the 10-metres, another it will be the PTB, another day forward passes. the last few weks, for example, have seen numerous instances of markers not being square, yet they're rarely punished these days.

Similarly with tackles being completed, especially when a player is being dragged backwards or into touch. There was one occasion last week when one of our players (Carmont? not sure) was being taken into touch, another (Phelps?) "lent weight" to prevent it, but they were still allowed to continue and take him over the touchline. Later in the game, in a similar situation (but towards the try line), the tackle was called held before the line was reached, as soon as another player arrived to "lend weight".

There weren't any rules for Hull KR tonight, but to the rulebook by RS for Wigan. Where is the consistency there?

[robjoenz]

For me, it's consistency in how strictly the rules are enforced. It always seems that from week to week, and from ref to ref, different things are concentrated on, and other things let slip. One day it'll be the 10-metres, another it will be the PTB, another day forward passes. the last few weks, for example, have seen numerous instances of markers not being square, yet they're rarely punished these days.

Each game is different and the penalties given will depend on how players shape up. If discipline is poor at the 10 m you'll see penalties for it, if discipline suffers at the ruck you'll see penalties that way. The referee will give them where he feels it is becoming an issue.

Regarding consistency, one thing a referee will do is try and let things go that he doesn't need to penalise. If there is some more subtle slowing down of the play-the-ball he may caution a team on the run and if it becomes a problem penalise. It's difficult sat in the stands because you don't know how many times the referee has spoken to players about different things (the refs earpiece helped this at Millennium). It's easy to see one side penalised for a repeat minor offence and then see the other side committ the exact same minor offence and not be penalised. However, if that's the first time the second team has done it that game then the referee is giving them chance to rectify the issue before he needs to give a penalty.

Another argument is that all of these minor offences should be penalised but who wants to see 60 penalties a game?

Similarly with tackles being completed, especially when a player is being dragged backwards or into touch. There was one occasion last week when one of our players (Carmont? not sure) was being taken into touch, another (Phelps?) "lent weight" to prevent it, but they were still allowed to continue and take him over the touchline. Later in the game, in a similar situation (but towards the try line), the tackle was called held before the line was reached, as soon as another player arrived to "lend weight".

The interpreation of lending weight is when the ball carriers momentum stops, i.e. he stops moving. You can no longer just push onto the maul and expect the referee to call held, you have to actually stop it.