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Re: Wigan Warriors v Harlquins

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:17 am
by botica
Gutted, MM took a massive gamble and came up short. I don't think any one player did this tonight, there were chinks in the armour across the whole pitch. Support play for the two passed out balls that went to quinns. There should have been support and if the 1st team was out there would have been i'm sure.

Agreed with CP... Bradford MKII

Any coincidence that the barmy army drumming period was when Quinns took control or was it just me getting pee'd off with it

Re: Wigan Warriors v Harlquins

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:22 am
by neilbass
Any coincidence that the barmy army drumming period was when Quinns took control or was it just me getting pee'd off with it
Spot on! Said this myself midway through it. I don't believe it inspires the team. All it did was cause a lot of the South stand to crane their necks round to watch the crowd instead of the game.

Re: Wigan Warriors v Harlquins

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:22 am
by cpwigan
The lack of support for the big Feka break was criminal IMO. I thought the Big Guy looked at his best and more comfortable with his new shape than previously. Mistake not to get him back on earlier in the second half IMO.

I think Quins playerd well with ball in hand but largely when we allowed them to. They did not looked awesome in the first 40 but second 40 they looked harlem globe trotters. A tad like Bradford.

Walker sorry but he should never have been there and why oh why was he on the pitch the whole of the second half. He was a headless chicken not knowing what to do, where to stand.

Re: Wigan Warriors v Harlquins

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:22 am
by jaws1
cherry.pie wrote:Ainscough was alright, he made 3 good cover tackles (nothing superb, just good cover tackling) but he's doesn't put in anything like the same amount of hard work as Goulding.
He should have been taking the ball from dummy half after the kick return and driving it straight but instead he was going sideways, waiting at first receiver or standing away from the ball. He needs to put his head down. I don't think it was a terrible performance though, that would be harsh.

Bailey at centre shouldn't happen again. He's too exposed for pace. IMO he's a better player on the left hand side and Joel is better on the right.

Jonny Walker looked out of his depth. He was running around looking for work one minute then standing around when he should be helping the tackle the next. Can't fault his effort but it was very surprising to see him picked and he didn't look comfortable at all.
Mossop, IMO, will lose his place if we get players back next week. His worst game of the season and we've already seen how Maguire works. Bailey was poor, but out of position, and has shown he's performing well at second row. Liam Farrell has cemented his place in the team for next week and would be one of the first names on the team sheet.

We need Leuluai back, as it will help the halves and the pack and give the team the shape back.
Gleeson was also a big loss, as was Goulding, so hopefully they only have small knocks and will be back in the side soon.

Nothing to panic about at the moment, but mistakes that need to be corrected before they become bigger issues.

Stefan Marsh was in the squad and not picked

Re: Wigan Warriors v Harlquins

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:28 am
by RJ
neilbass wrote:
Any coincidence that the barmy army drumming period was when Quinns took control or was it just me getting pee'd off with it
Spot on! Said this myself midway through it. I don't believe it inspires the team. All it did was cause a lot of the South stand to crane their necks round to watch the crowd instead of the game.
Must agree. Mind bogglingly boring, I would love to chuck the drums in the Dougie (and the drummer)

Re: Wigan Warriors v Harlquins

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:34 am
by the_cow
Some of the comments on here are biased tripe...

Ainscough should not be blamed for Bailey's awful performance tonight. However, the jury is certainly out as to whether he has improved at all defensively over the last 18 months or so. The Quins first try was not his fault, but what was more alarming was him leaving his winger unmarked in the near try we managed to bundle in to touch in the first half. I think we may not see him for a while regardless, as he seemed to have an injury for the last 20 mins. Do I think he will ever make it at Wigan? No. Do i think he will have a career in Superleague? Yes.

Bailey was exposed tonight horrendously- he struggled at centre 2 years ago...he has now lost what pace he had and was awful tonight. Get him back in the second row.

Slating Johnny Walker is laughable...1 anonymous game in an awful team performance. I disagree with the comments about the defence being worse when he came on- we were worse in the first 20 until he came on.

And the point no-one has mentioned so far as I can see- Lockers cannot play stand-off. It's just not within his game. He came narrow tonight a few times and this left us exposed.

Re: Wigan Warriors v Harlquins

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:44 am
by cpwigan
the_cow wrote:Some of the comments on here are biased tripe...

Ainscough should not be blamed for Bailey's awful performance tonight. However, the jury is certainly out as to whether he has improved at all defensively over the last 18 months or so. The Quins first try was not his fault, but what was more alarming was him leaving his winger unmarked in the near try we managed to bundle in to touch in the first half. I think we may not see him for a while regardless, as he seemed to have an injury for the last 20 mins. Do I think he will ever make it at Wigan? No. Do i think he will have a career in Superleague? Yes.

Bailey was exposed tonight horrendously- he struggled at centre 2 years ago...he has now lost what pace he had and was awful tonight. Get him back in the second row.

Slating Johnny Walker is laughable...1 anonymous game in an awful team performance. I disagree with the comments about the defence being worse when he came on- we were worse in the first 20 until he came on.

And the point no-one has mentioned so far as I can see- Lockers cannot play stand-off. It's just not within his game. He came narrow tonight a few times and this left us exposed.
Sounds like the biased tripe is yours :lol:

Lockers was one of the few players to strive to make it happen. I agree he is our LF and the lynchpin that holds this team together. Incidentally Bailey was captain tonight but when the poop hit the fan it was LOckers striving to get the team back together again in the team huddles.

How anybody can say a winger being outjumped for a kick is not at fault beggars belief. VERY SIMPLE - If Ainscough catches the kick. Play ends. Nobody at fault. As it was Ainscough is the first at fault and then Bailey is at fault. Yes Bailey was horrid tonight. So on that basis Madge got it wrong.

Walker was out of his depth. He may as well have not played. He did not know where to stand, what positions to take up. He was running around like a headless chicken which is useless. Does Liam Farrell look so clueless? No because he understands RL. Johnny is a novice and it shows.

Re: Wigan Warriors v Harlquins

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:45 am
by DaveO
cpwigan wrote:Faz normally gets himself in good position and the fans certainly seemed to think he had scored. Not convinced Bentham handled that period of the game very well given Quins were happy to keep conceding penalties.
That's the only complaint Wigan fans can have about the way tonight went. Bentham should have sin binned someone after the fourth professional foul in a row on their line.

The trouble is we then waved the white flag by taking the two on the last penalty with about 17 mins to go and signalled we were going to try and defend a 8 point lead. Don't know who made that call, the coach or the captain but whoever it was wants shooting IMO

Dave


Re: Wigan Warriors v Harlquins

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:49 am
by cpwigan
The coaching staff I would say given how quickly the kicking tee came out and yes it relieved the pressure on the Quins.

Incidentally, fair play to the Quins coaching staff, theirinterchanges were excellent in that second half.

Re: Wigan Warriors v Harlquins

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:51 am
by 4bobs

Foot off the gas 2nd half. 32 - 2 against bottom club with their fullback playing at LF, etc. Awful.

How many of those extra fans tonight will now want to re-attend at DW in future?

5 tries to none in 2nd half. Gutted. What the hell were the team doing???