Re: Drink Culture

damien morrissey · Post by **damien morrissey** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:15 pm

Either my computer isnt working or you have scared everyone off with this one Geoff.

GeoffN · Post by **GeoffN** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:35 pm

damien morrissey posted:
Either my computer isnt working or you have scared everyone off with this one Geoff.

..that could be construed as libelling them...they don't scare that easily!

damien morrissey · Post by **damien morrissey** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:41 pm

GeoffN posted:
damien morrissey posted:
Either my computer isnt working or you have scared everyone off with this one Geoff.
..that could be construed as libelling them...they don't scare that easily!

Jeez i have never seen this site as quiet.Things must be bad. :conf:

jinkin jimmy · Post by **jinkin jimmy** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:22 am

damien morrissey posted:
GeoffN posted:
damien morrissey posted:
Either my computer isnt working or you have scared everyone off with this one Geoff.
..that could be construed as libelling them...they don't scare that easily!
Jeez i have never seen this site as quiet.Things must be bad. :conf:

Well I for one have been logged on all night but haven't been sat at my computer.

Fraggle · Post by **Fraggle** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:32 am

GeoffN posted:
"Those who host chatrooms and weblogs - including Yahoo - are not liable for libellous remarks if they accept certain responsibilities."

Seems to imply that whoever posts the alleged libel is responsible, but not Mike or his ISP.
but:
"So long as they didn't know the information to be libellous, didn't select the recipient of the information and they remove defamatory information as soon as they have been made aware of it, then they are not liable."

(which, apparently, includes moderators!)

"People who do edit and monitor posts on their sites would not have this defence but would be more likely to spot libellous statements themselves."

And people think we mods do nothing!

I think you're right about the general statements, no individuals are explicitly named as saying or doing (or not saying or doing) anything in particular, but we've had one or two "I heard from a friend of a friend that so-and-so was in the pub causing trouble with..." type messages and that kind of thing we'll have to remember to challenge for facts or delete.

Nine · Post by **Nine** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:33 pm

Don't get distracted by the mention of "individual". Libel also applies where the defamatory statement is made about a (usually fairly small) group of easily identifiable people. So you could libel the Wigan team, for instance but probably not the whole rugby league-playing fraternity.

I.e. if you said (purely as an example) "all Leeds players do rude things with sheep" and they objected, it could be libel as they are a relatively small group of easily identifiable individuals. If you said the same thing about "everyone in Yorkshire" it wouldn't be a problem as there's too many of them.

There's also a defence of "justification" which basically means what you said is true

.... but you'd better be able to prove it.

Fraggle · Post by **Fraggle** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:44 pm

Nine posted:
If you said the same thing about "everyone in Yorkshire" it wouldn't be a problem as there's too many of them.

True, especially as Yorkshire folk probably think "libel" is something on their clothes with washing instructions written on.... (/fraggle awaits label claim for the entire population of Puddingland...)

Nine · Post by **Nine** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:24 pm

Fraggle posted:
Nine posted:
If you said the same thing about "everyone in Yorkshire" it wouldn't be a problem as there's too many of them.
True, especially as Yorkshire folk probably think "libel" is something on their clothes with washing instructions written on.... (/fraggle awaits label claim for the entire population of Puddingland...)

No, that would be southerners. You know, the people who wash their hands in a bison.

Doveoverdave · Post by **Doveoverdave** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:35 pm

Fraggle posted:
Nine posted:
If you said the same thing about "everyone in Yorkshire" it wouldn't be a problem as there's too many of them.
True, especially as Yorkshire folk probably think "libel" is something on their clothes with washing instructions written on.... (/fraggle awaits label claim for the entire population of Puddingland...)

A Yorkshire man was speaking to his vet and said, "My cat's feeling poorly."

The vet replied "Is it a tom?"

The Yorkshire man said, "No I've brouhgt him with me!"

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:53 pm

A Yorkshire man took his dog to the vet

The vet looked at the dog and asked "Whippet?"

The Yorkshire man replied, "No! I've bought it"