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Re: Contrasting Salary Cap...

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:39 am
by wigan/pier
gpartin posted:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A24923810

What do you think to my response here guys... I am hullwarrior on BBC.

Cheers
Very well put! :eusa2:

Re: Contrasting Salary Cap...

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:44 am
by gpartin
wigan/pier posted:
gpartin posted:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A24923810

What do you think to my response here guys... I am hullwarrior on BBC.

Cheers
Very well put! :eusa2:
Thanks matey!

Re: Contrasting Salary Cap...

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:38 am
by Spanakopitta
anyone noticed that one Dave Whelan is named on the petition list :D

and just to point out again

1- not been found guilty yet
2- cas were over, all be it for something minor - player's family flight expense or something - but over none the less, in the season they gained promotion
3- how is it wigan's fault that cas played cr*p all season and ended up at the bottom of the table

Re: Contrasting Salary Cap...

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:53 pm
by cpwigan
Bradford have suddenly remembered they did not support Wigan and St Helens at the meeting :roll:

Re: Contrasting Salary Cap...

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:54 pm
by GeoffN
cpwigan posted:
Bradford have suddenly remembered they did not support Wigan and St Helens at the meeting :roll:
Yeah, I spotted that too! Selective memory...?

Re: Contrasting Salary Cap...

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:59 pm
by cpwigan
:) Looks like it Geoff

Re: Contrasting Salary Cap...

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:17 pm
by Fujiman
cpwigan posted:
:) Looks like it Geoff
On teletext (ITV)it says they would have accected a huge points loss. Funny how they didn't mention that before :angry:

Re: Contrasting Salary Cap...

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:28 am
by DaveO
Automatic posted:
The fact that it may be badly drawn, against natural justice damaging to the game as a whole, etc, is irrelevant - as long as it keeps us in our place, it's okay by them.
I think this must be true given the simplistic and blind support for the salary cap in every detail by some people.

Even if you criticise just one aspect of it, whatever that may be you get hoards coming to its defence.

Instead of trying to decide if there is any merit in what you say their first reaction is instead to start thinking up a defence for the salary cap.

It never crosses their mind it might not be perfect or in parts be fundamentally flawed.

The end result is it polarises debate about it into an "us v them" thing.

What I find strange is I simpy can't recall a fan of another club who does not support the cap.

In the many thousands of fans out there I can't believe there aren't some none-Wigan fans who think the cap has problems but it does not seem that way.

So given this irrational behaviour I can only agree with you they see it as vital to keeping Wigan in check and as a result are prepared to ignore any flaws. I think some people have defended the cap for so vociferously for so long they actually now do believe their own arguments.

Dave

Re: Contrasting Salary Cap...

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:05 pm
by butt monkey
cpwigan posted:
Bradford have suddenly remembered they did not support Wigan and St Helens at the meeting :roll:
Now that Bradford have admitted that they would have accepted the 2007 punishments, wouldn't it be a lovely irony - if the RFL, in there wisdom, were to reappraise there decision and decide to deduct 4-6 more points, reintroduce the suspended fine and ADD a further fine for contravening bylaws and bringing the game into disrepute! (Bradford are, by there admission, saying that they will accept any new Cap rulings and alterations since 2006, and were willing to be dealt with under these new guidelines that have been introduced).

Wouldn't we see the Bulls sh***e themselves then. I am sick of there self congratulatory back-slapping at avoiding bigger punishment and at the same time, pretending that they would have not complained if the worse HAD of come to them!

Talk about retrospective leadership - shouldn't they have demanded this BEFORE there case was heard. And this from a club, that has won more than most, whilst at the same time breaking those same rules, they claim they would adhere too!

Re: Contrasting Salary Cap...

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:50 pm
by gpartin
butt monkey posted:
cpwigan posted:
Bradford have suddenly remembered they did not support Wigan and St Helens at the meeting :roll:
Now that Bradford have admitted that they would have accepted the 2007 punishments, wouldn't it be a lovely irony - if the RFL, in there wisdom, were to reappraise there decision and decide to deduct 4-6 more points, reintroduce the suspended fine and ADD a further fine for contravening bylaws and bringing the game into disrepute! (Bradford are, by there admission, saying that they will accept any new Cap rulings and alterations since 2006, and were willing to be dealt with under these new guidelines that have been introduced).

Wouldn't we see the Bulls sh***e themselves then. I am sick of there self congratulatory back-slapping at avoiding bigger punishment and at the same time, pretending that they would have not complained if the worse HAD of come to them!

Talk about retrospective leadership - shouldn't they have demanded this BEFORE there case was heard. And this from a club, that has won more than most, whilst at the same time breaking those same rules, they claim they would adhere too!
LOL - Bradford are a professional side who respect the rules of the game, accept the RFL's decision as final and have no time for clubs who 'bring the game into disrepute - Even when they do interviews with national newspapers slagging referees and demanding Leeds 'do the right thing' and hand them 2 competition points which were 'rightfully theirs'. After all that is, of course, what they'd have done in the circumstances.... :lol: