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ChrisA posted:

pedro posted:
I think our biggest problem we have had in years is technique. Apart from farrell the only forward who has run his weight is O'Connor the rest do not and that also is the problem. If Seu Seu run his weight it may be different. Which is a combination of size and strength

lol thats my whole point, im not saying size on its own counts for everything, if you combine it with strength and aggresion and mobilty, that will make a better forward than the same but in a guy 2 stone lighter.
I mean look at Wayne Mcdonald the guys huge, but I would take Jamie thackary who is tiny in comparison over him any day, like I say there are exceptions to the rule as in everything in life.
Now if you could put Thackrays aggresion and running style into Mcdonald, now that would be a scary player, and he would still be at Leeds.

But anyway, I think recently Seuseu has been running alot harder than he did at first, he is trying hard I feel, its mainly the back rowers who are to lightweight, they dont bust any tackles outwide and back ther props up enough when it comes to making the hard yards.

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ChrisA posted:

x Wigan Warrior x posted:
Weight and speed !!! Props are not as old. Why have a slow lumbering heavy weight, when a quicker light heavy weight will do ? After all in the beginning a props weight was essential for a scrum ……… hardly need that now do we ?

what sort of question is that ?
So youre telling me that Paul Anderson, Joe Vagana, O'connor or Craig Smith are no better for their size than say a 15 stone prop, dont talk garbage. Size is everything as long as they are mobile and fit, it takes so much energy bringing down an 18 stone guy compared to sombody like Cassidy for 80 minutes. It just tires teams out like it did to us against bradford at home, we where just dead on our feet.

Its obvious that a heavier guy will make more yards in the collisons than a lighter guy.
Sorry but I just cant see the logic in your post.

ive never seen a prop last 80 mins...... !!!! have u ?

x Wigan Warrior x posted:

ChrisA posted:

pedro posted:
I think our biggest problem we have had in years is technique. Apart from farrell the only forward who has run his weight is O'Connor the rest do not and that also is the problem. If Seu Seu run his weight it may be different. Which is a combination of size and strength

lol thats my whole point, im not saying size on its own counts for everything, if you combine it with strength and aggresion and mobilty, that will make a better forward than the same but in a guy 2 stone lighter.
I mean look at Wayne Mcdonald the guys huge, but I would take Jamie thackary who is tiny in comparison over him any day, like I say there are exceptions to the rule as in everything in life.
Now if you could put Thackrays aggresion and running style into Mcdonald, now that would be a scary player, and he would still be at Leeds.

But anyway, I think recently Seuseu has been running alot harder than he did at first, he is trying hard I feel, its mainly the back rowers who are to lightweight, they dont bust any tackles outwide and back ther props up enough when it comes to making the hard yards.

STOP CHANGING YOUR POINT !!!! now your talking about strength !!!!!! i said weight !!!! not strength !!! :eusa17:

x Wigan Warrior x posted:
u never played the game i guess ????