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josie andrews wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:59 am

morley pie eater wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:25 am Could it be that the brace* he is using is to help make his speech clearer in the long term?

Whatever the answer, I think the main problems are that he talks too fast, his Leeds accent, and the crowd noise, which stopped me hearing much of the commentary (hearing problems anyway - switch stuff off that has music in the background).

I'm sure C4 will sort the crowd noise issue - it certainly won't be a problem if they come to Wigan! JJB will also be coached to slow down and enunciate more clearly. The Leeds twang would then become less of an issue.

Give him a chance - he's a good bloke and knows his stuff.

Wilkin is admittedly much clearer but seems to love himself, and JJB is more likely to come up with something informative than Clarke, Tez or Baz.

While we're on the subject, Bill Arthur couldn't decide if it was Field or Fields, and O'Connor constantly Said "Ghee-zhow" when it's pronounced "Zhee-gow" - not a big deal for you or me, but a commentator is paid plenty and should know.

*Brace is British English for something on your teeth, braces hold your pants up

Americans use braces and suspenders.

Which player was this Morley? I’ve said it to myself several times but still don’t know who/what it is

Welski wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:05 am

morley pie eater wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:25 am

*Brace is British English for something on your teeth, braces hold your pants up

Americans use braces and suspenders.

Braces is the plural of brace in English. It appeared to me that he had a brace on both upper and lower sets of teeth hence braces.

If he had braces in his mouth, as in suspenders, he did a damn fine job of articulating his thoughts.

Ps not having a go at him just think it’s odd that a TV company wouldn’t do sound checks to ensure that a guest could be heard clearly whatever the reason.

morley pie eater wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:35 am

Welski wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:05 am

morley pie eater wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:25 am

*Brace is British English for something on your teeth, braces hold your pants up

Americans use braces and suspenders.

Braces is the plural of brace in English. It appeared to me that he had a brace on both upper and lower sets of teeth hence braces.

If he had braces in his mouth, as in suspenders, he did a damn fine job of articulating his thoughts.

Ps not having a go at him just think it’s odd that a TV company wouldn’t do sound checks to ensure that a guest could be heard clearly whatever the reason.

Sorry! I stand corrected.

The yanks say "braces" for a single one, so I wrongly assumed it was an Americanism.

At 70 years old, I'm well into the "grumpy old man" phase, and have a bee in my bonnet about Americanisms used in Britain. Irritating smiley sales people stop me and Mrs Morley on the street with "Hi guys!". I point out that we're British and she is a woman.

"Under the hood" - bonnet.
"Gas" - petrol.
"Airplane" - aeroplane.

I think you get the picture. My grandkids are trained to speak proper (northern) English when they come to our house - they have dinner at dinner time and tea at tea time, at home it's lunch and dinner

bill.inger wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:40 pm Won't someone give JJB a break instead of slating the lad. He's had twenty years of sticking his head where the majority of us would never go near. How many smashed noses and broken jaws, black eyes and cracked cheekbones has he had? He comes over as a pleasant and knowledgeable pundit plus he's entertaining which in more than can be said for the majority of RL commentators we have to endure.

Welski wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:51 pm

morley pie eater wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:35 am

Welski wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:05 am

Braces is the plural of brace in English. It appeared to me that he had a brace on both upper and lower sets of teeth hence braces.

If he had braces in his mouth, as in suspenders, he did a damn fine job of articulating his thoughts.

Ps not having a go at him just think it’s odd that a TV company wouldn’t do sound checks to ensure that a guest could be heard clearly whatever the reason.

Sorry! I stand corrected.

The yanks say "braces" for a single one, so I wrongly assumed it was an Americanism.

At 70 years old, I'm well into the "grumpy old man" phase, and have a bee in my bonnet about Americanisms used in Britain. Irritating smiley sales people stop me and Mrs Morley on the street with "Hi guys!". I point out that we're British and she is a woman.

"Under the hood" - bonnet.
"Gas" - petrol.
"Airplane" - aeroplane.

I think you get the picture. My grandkids are trained to speak proper (northern) English when they come to our house - they have dinner at dinner time and tea at tea time, at home it's lunch and dinner

Sir, you are a man after one’s own heart! Never apologise for pointing out the correct use of our wonderful language. In the right hands, it’s a joy to behold.

I too am somewhat of a pedant, although prone to the occasional gaff myself. I would say however that as an Essex boy of some 54 years I’m not sure I would consider northern English to be proper, cor blimey know what I mean guv’nor?

bill.inger wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:40 pm Won't someone give JJB a break instead of slating the lad. He's had twenty years of sticking his head where the majority of us would never go near. How many smashed noses and broken jaws, black eyes and cracked cheekbones has he had? He comes over as a pleasant and knowledgeable pundit plus he's entertaining which in more than can be said for the majority of RL commentators we have to endure.

On Sky Sports tonight, Jamie Jones-Buchanan explained he had major facial surgery late last year to repair some old injuries...

"That's why I sound and look like I've got my car keys in my mouth!"

Never change, JJB!

josie andrews wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:55 pm

On Sky Sports tonight, Jamie Jones-Buchanan explained he had major facial surgery late last year to repair some old injuries...

"That's why I sound and look like I've got my car keys in my mouth!"

Never change, JJB!