Pat Richards

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robjoenz
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Re: Pat Richards

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stevocod posted:
robjoenz posted:
stevocod posted:
imo Richards has been our best attacking option this season.
If you seriously believe that mate you need psychiactric help!
Who is our top tryscorer then? Is that not evidence of that on the basis of a poor attack so far this season, who else has been better?
:eusa17: Just because he is top scorer doesn't make him our best attacking option. He is at the end of the line and as a winger he is there to place the ball over the line. He doesn't run the ball hard enough and his defence has been poor when you consider the size of him.

Players that are better than Richards in attack are Hock, Fletcher and O'Loughlin. Since we've signed Dobson we've had more attacking options too. Fletcher hasn't been our worst player, but he's definately been underperforming.
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Re: Pat Richards

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robjoenz posted:
stevocod posted:
robjoenz posted: If you seriously believe that mate you need psychiactric help!
Who is our top tryscorer then? Is that not evidence of that on the basis of a poor attack so far this season, who else has been better?
:eusa17: Just because he is top scorer doesn't make him our best attacking option. He is at the end of the line and as a winger he is there to place the ball over the line. He doesn't run the ball hard enough and his defence has been poor when you consider the size of him.

Players that are better than Richards in attack are Hock, Fletcher and O'Loughlin. Since we've signed Dobson we've had more attacking options too. Fletcher hasn't been our worst player, but he's definately been underperforming.
Yes but when we were in a deep mire with Moran as our 7, he was the only one to score when we needed it and was certainly instrumental in defense and attack when we beat Huddersfield away this season.

Hock, Fletch and Lockers have been poor like many others all season and the one game i can think fletch had that was good was the same game Richards scored twice against Huddersfield.

We haven't had one decent attacking option in the first ten games bar the Huddersfield away game and part of the reason we have the second worse attack in the league and your answer to better the attack is to drop our top scorer and you say i need psychiatric help? :doz:
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Re: Pat Richards

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stevocod posted:
robjoenz posted:
stevocod posted: Who is our top tryscorer then? Is that not evidence of that on the basis of a poor attack so far this season, who else has been better?
:eusa17: Just because he is top scorer doesn't make him our best attacking option. He is at the end of the line and as a winger he is there to place the ball over the line. He doesn't run the ball hard enough and his defence has been poor when you consider the size of him.

Players that are better than Richards in attack are Hock, Fletcher and O'Loughlin. Since we've signed Dobson we've had more attacking options too. Fletcher hasn't been our worst player, but he's definately been underperforming.
Yes but when we were in a deep mire with Moran as our 7, he was the only one to score when we needed it and was certainly instrumental in defense and attack when we beat Huddersfield away this season.

Hock, Fletch and Lockers have been poor like many others all season and the one game i can think fletch had that was good was the same game Richards scored twice against Huddersfield.

We haven't had one decent attacking option in the first ten games bar the Huddersfield away game and part of the reason we have the second worse attack in the league and your answer to better the attack is to drop our top scorer and you say i need psychiatric help? :doz:
I agree with Rob. Richards has scored loads of jumping tries. As we are not exploiting it enough I wouldnt play him as thats all hes good at. Hes no pace, defence is poor and couldnt burst our of a wet paper bag.
If it was me at 7 with Dobsons kicking game evry single kick would go high to him. But as we dont I wouldnt play him.
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But Calderwood is a similar winger and unless he's linking well with a centre who is going to commit opposition tacklers ala Chev Walker when he was at Leeds, Calderwood struggles to score as well, unless it's broken field play from an opponent knocking on in our half and he has noone in front of him.

Calderwood is a rangy player, but i feel he needs certain things to suceed the same as Richards with a high kick.
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One thing he has got is pace and its a useful thing to have. We lack pace with Richards but Calderwood will demand respect from his winger due to him being so quick. Also I would like to see a long range try this year from us
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Re: Pat Richards

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pedro posted:
One thing he has got is pace and its a useful thing to have. We lack pace with Richards but Calderwood will demand respect from his winger due to him being so quick. Also I would like to see a long range try this year from us
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Ok fair comment, what i would like personally is Richards and Calderwood on the wing and put Dallas in the centre as he's good from broken field play and unlike many wingers he's not selfish and can pass!

I think Mcavoy has played well and think Nobby will persist in him but i think we could play out the season with Dallas there and then Bailey will be the natural replacement in that position when he retires.

I still don't see what's wrong with interchanging backs as well as forwards and now we have one 80 minute prop, why not work on our backs as well and have a more cohesive back line.
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