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Re: Graham
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:20 pm
by Panchitta Marra
exile in Tiger country wrote:Hawkeye wrote:Wonder were hocks and Smiths wage as gone if were at full cap as we are :conf:
Sam T for five years at a better contract must have taken a good chunk of this surely.
Don't want Graham, he's not brilliant, goes to ground easily and it seems from other rumours on here, is a trouble causer if the coach tries to make him work hard and we can be pretty certain Maguire will make them work very hard.
Surely his work rate & yards gained speak for themselves Exile.
Re: Graham
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:49 pm
by cherry83
I DONT REALLY LIKE GRAHAM BUT I WOULD HAVE HIM AT WIGAN ANY DAY OVER FIELDEN.... IS A JOKE I READ A FEW WEEKS BACK (IF IT RAINS IN WIGAN THE FANS BLAME ME) NO MATE JUST DO YOUR JOB WE DONT THINK YOUR GOD BUT PLEASE DO YOUR JOB WELL OR AT LEAST GIVE US HALF OF WHAT WE PAID YOU ALL THAT MONEY TO DO
Re: Graham
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:44 pm
by ancientnloyal
Re: Graham
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:47 pm
by Hawkeye
Saints fan on RLfans
Joynty11 wrote: I heard of a mate who runs my local pub that James Graham will be announced as Wigan player next week at a press conference. Everytime a big signing has happenend in Super League he has told me a couple of weeks in advance and he has been bang on everytime. He is very friendly with a number of current and ex Wigan players and I take it this is where he gets his info.
I have no reason to disbelieve him whatsoever has everybit of his information has been correct in years gone by.
I think we have to accept James Graham will no longer be a Saint by a week on Saturday. I for one am gutted about this as we will be losing the best Prop in Super League by a country mile.
Re: Graham
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:20 am
by League_Fan
I just dont see what the hype is about Graham - sure he's good but he aint world class. All he does is tip the ball on 4 out of 5 drives - he plays Prop like a lock forwards game. Tomkins took more tackles than him against the Kiwis on Sat. Id much rather see a rampaging forward like Moi Moi or Burgess.
Re: Graham
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:53 am
by Panchitta Marra
League_Fan wrote:I just dont see what the hype is about Graham - sure he's good but he aint world class. All he does is tip the ball on 4 out of 5 drives - he plays Prop like a lock forwards game. Tomkins took more tackles than him against the Kiwis on Sat. Id much rather see a rampaging forward like Moi Moi or Burgess.
Must disagree here League_Fan.
Was Graham not selected as the worlds best prop in 2008.
OK he doesnt make rampaging runs like Moi Moi, but his workrate is as good as any forward in Rugby League.
He would be my first choice prop of any of the nations.
Definititely a world class in my eyes.
And I certainly hope that he is signing for Wigan next season.
Re: Graham
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:23 am
by Kiwiseddon
League_Fan wrote:I just dont see what the hype is about Graham - sure he's good but he aint world class. All he does is tip the ball on 4 out of 5 drives - he plays Prop like a lock forwards game. Tomkins took more tackles than him against the Kiwis on Sat. Id much rather see a rampaging forward like Moi Moi or Burgess.
Ok but. Moi Moi isn't gonna come to Wigan and Burgess is going down under.
If you look at the OPTA Stats for the 2009 season, Graham made 4713 metres which was the most anyone did. That's awesome in itself but when you compare it to the person who came second in the 'metres made' category, which was Jamie Peacock with 3933 metres, you realise just how much work he gets through. He's also made over 100 carries more than anyone else.
I appreciate that he's not a perfect player but when you compare him to our current props, he would be invaluable at Wigan IMO.
As for a 'rampaging forward'........ FEKA anyone??!!
Re: Graham
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:07 am
by ste lord
Kiwiseddon wrote:League_Fan wrote:I just dont see what the hype is about Graham - sure he's good but he aint world class. All he does is tip the ball on 4 out of 5 drives - he plays Prop like a lock forwards game. Tomkins took more tackles than him against the Kiwis on Sat. Id much rather see a rampaging forward like Moi Moi or Burgess.
Ok but. Moi Moi isn't gonna come to Wigan and Burgess is going down under.
If you look at the OPTA Stats for the 2009 season, Graham made 4713 metres which was the most anyone did. That's awesome in itself but when you compare it to the person who came second in the 'metres made' category, which was Jamie Peacock with 3933 metres, you realise just how much work he gets through. He's also made over 100 carries more than anyone else.
I appreciate that he's not a perfect player but when you compare him to our current props, he would be invaluable at Wigan IMO.
As for a 'rampaging forward'........ FEKA anyone??!!
Agreed so long as MM and the new fitness fella can sort him out !!
Re: Graham
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:15 pm
by stevethegas
This has been a fascinating topic, but is now redundant.
However according to the official Rugby League website St Helens have announced their squad numbers for 2010, and I'll let you guess who's at number 10!
Re: Graham
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:50 pm
by ancientnloyal
stevethegas wrote:This has been a fascinating topic, but is now redundant.
However according to the official Rugby League website St Helens have announced their squad numbers for 2010, and I'll let you guess who's at number 10!
Gordon Brown? technically.