This says it all

[we_need_a_coach]

warrior till i die posted:
what is this message board coming to? We all used to be happily discussing the game and different matters of rugby win or lose. We didnt criticise the team and we never wanted the coach to leave because what good would that leave us in eh? I would truly love to see the team win every week but that wont happen in this league. And if anyone criticises the team try and put yourselves in their boots and see how you would feel being criticised by your own fans.

:conf: I'm sorry, what are you trying to say, it is us the fans who MUST say what we feel, and it is Doris DW and Betts who should listen, because if they don't we will lose those 'fans' that have been attracted recently.

And at the moment we can't congratulate them on anything, just point out the areas we feel need some attention !!!!

[warrior till i die]

we_need_a_coach posted:

warrior till i die posted:
what is this message board coming to? We all used to be happily discussing the game and different matters of rugby win or lose. We didnt criticise the team and we never wanted the coach to leave because what good would that leave us in eh? I would truly love to see the team win every week but that wont happen in this league. And if anyone criticises the team try and put yourselves in their boots and see how you would feel being criticised by your own fans.

:conf: I'm sorry, what are you trying to say, it is us the fans who MUST say what we feel, and it is Doris DW and Betts who should listen, because if they don't we will lose those 'fans' that have been attracted recently.

And at the moment we can't congratulate them on anything, just point out the areas we feel need some attention !!!!

wnac you have pointed out everything. Cant you think of one posative word.

[ChrisA]

warrior till i die posted:
what is this message board coming to? We all used to be happily discussing the game and different matters of rugby win or lose. We didnt criticise the team and we never wanted the coach to leave because what good would that leave us in eh? I would truly love to see the team win every week but that wont happen in this league. And if anyone criticises the team try and put yourselves in their boots and see how you would feel being criticised by your own fans.

What has happened is, we are seeing the effects of years of bad recruitment. the players are not upto, and the youngsters do not have the genuine quality that you see in a player by the time hes 20. Im not gonna sit here and ignore the facts that this side is poor by Wigan standards, and neither is anyone else, if you want to sit here and discuss the weather or how to knit sleeves then fine, but i like most others will discuss whats relevant, which is the current situation regarding our squad and the qulity of it, or rather lack of.

Unfortunatly, when a team is not upto it like our isnt, then fans will say this, they are all willing to take the praise when it comes along, and on the other hand you take the critcism too.

Its not just the players, its the recruitment by maurice, and the naive tactics by an inexperienced coach. From the top to the bottom, we are being badly managed.

We are entitled to voice our oppinions as we pay money every week to watch this team.

[jinkin jimmy]

ChrisA posted:

warrior till i die posted:
what is this message board coming to? We all used to be happily discussing the game and different matters of rugby win or lose. We didnt criticise the team and we never wanted the coach to leave because what good would that leave us in eh? I would truly love to see the team win every week but that wont happen in this league. And if anyone criticises the team try and put yourselves in their boots and see how you would feel being criticised by your own fans.

What has happened is, we are seeing the effects of years of bad recruitment. the players are not upto, and the youngsters do not have the genuine quality that you see in a player by the time hes 20. Im not gonna sit here and ignore the facts that this side is poor by Wigan standards, and neither is anyone else, if you want to sit here and discuss the weather or how to knit sleeves then fine, but i like most others will discuss whats relevant, which is the current situation regarding our squad and the qulity of it, or rather lack of.

Unfortunatly, when a team is not upto it like our isnt, then fans will say this, they are all willing to take the praise when it comes along, and on the other hand you take the critcism too.

Its not just the players, its the recruitment by maurice, and the naive tactics by an inexperienced coach. From the top to the bottom, we are being badly managed.

We are entitled to voice our oppinions as we pay money every week to watch this team.

:eusa2:

[we_need_a_coach]

warrior till i die posted:

we_need_a_coach posted:

warrior till i die posted:
what is this message board coming to? We all used to be happily discussing the game and different matters of rugby win or lose. We didnt criticise the team and we never wanted the coach to leave because what good would that leave us in eh? I would truly love to see the team win every week but that wont happen in this league. And if anyone criticises the team try and put yourselves in their boots and see how you would feel being criticised by your own fans.

:conf: I'm sorry, what are you trying to say, it is us the fans who MUST say what we feel, and it is Doris DW and Betts who should listen, because if they don't we will lose those 'fans' that have been attracted recently.

And at the moment we can't congratulate them on anything, just point out the areas we feel need some attention !!!!

wnac you have pointed out everything. Cant you think of one posative word.

Nope not one thing I'm afraid, depressing really is'nt it.

[warrior till i die]

yes it is depressing wnac sitting here listening to you taking a swipe at betts all the time.

[we_need_a_coach]

warrior till i die posted:
yes it is depressing wnac sitting here listening to you taking a swipe at betts all the time.

I am not a lone voice ! I just say things in a very down to earth realistic way, grow up !

[MrsLam]

It's not just a difference of opinions on here though, it's adifference of characters.

You see, as I've said before we're very 50 50 split. There are those that can't see any positives in the team coach management or current position and there are those that can. Those that can are saying "Why can't you see the positives?" and those that can't are saying "Why can't you see the negatives?"

Just because you have been watching the sport for 20,30 or 40 years longer does not make your opinion anymore valid than mine. I was not physically able to watch that team, my dad on the other hand was and he has not once called for Betts head or blamed it on Mo or Whelan, he is willing to see both the positive and negatives to how we've been playing recently. He doesn't go on about how we're gonna thrash Leeds but neither do he go on about how we're going to be thrashed by them.

So saying, listen i've been watching them 500 years I've seen the good and the bad, we haven't won in 3 games and this is Mos fault is no more "realistic" or "down to earth" than what anyone else on this board has to say. In the end, anyone with an opinion of any type is being down to earth. People see things differently, and sorry to disappoint everyone but not one person on this board is actually right in anything they're saying. Opinions are not right or wrong.

[silver surfer]

we_need_a_coach posted:

warrior till i die posted:
yes it is depressing wnac sitting here listening to you taking a swipe at betts all the time.

I am not a lone voice ! I just say things in a very down to earth realistic way, grow up !

WNAC
A serious question for you. Who do you rate in this present team ( if anybody at all)? Also if you dislike Betts as a coach as much as you say, who would you bring in to replace him? I am not having a go at you, I would really like to know.

[robjoenz]

I've already asked that Silver Surfer, I got no response.

Come on WNAC, show us your true colours, who would you keep?!