Wigan v Hudds

[DaveO]

I agree tonight wasn't brilliant but some of our play at times was breathtaking, however some of our defence and in particular Gelling was awful! I think after 2 weeks off we are usually abysmal and lose but tonight was more about our character and desire which pleased me the most!

I thought we'd be rusty and might struggle as Hudds looked a big set of players warming up and looked sharper.

When they went 10-0 up with two virtually identical scores with our defence making the exact same mistake I thought they would have gone that way time after time.

They did to a degree but on a few occasions went back inside hoping the middle had moved left to cover but they kept in position and managed to put the tackles in.

That try form Faz was crucial and was a great break from him. That an the one from Williams pass were the tries of the night.

I also thought Powell did OK. He actually injected a bit of spark I thought.

As to the props I am sure Tauati will get slagged off for the errors in particular the two he made more or less as soon as he came on but him and Clubb were far more aggressive than Crosby and Mossop.

Where was Flower? If he's not injured one of those has got to make way next week.

[DaveO]

In complete defence of Gelling it's not his side of the pitch, nor is it Manfredi either, Manfredi as the game went on grew into the position but Gelling doesn't look comfortable at all, and looks very akward going into the tackle.

Huddersfield have done there homework superbly here and exploited this. There needs to be changes next time out IMO otherwise Gelling will be made to look garbage.

The simple consitina play is how Huddersfield got there try's, went down the short side with less numbers bringing numbers short then good fast hands out the opposite side were the defence is compressed down one side. Simple rugby very effective in isolating Manfredi 2-1, idiots around me slagging Manfredi off :conf: obviously know eff all about rugby.

Gelling was exploited which is down to shoulders, it's like a right handed man trying to write with his left is the best explanation I can give, some players can adjust some players really can't and Gelling is one of them.

Over all a great result and given the away fixtures this really was a must win IMO.

It was an important win given we have abdicated a home fixture.

The crap defence wasn't all about left or right handedness. Shooting out of the line or not drifting across has got nothing to do with that.

Preferred sides of play tend to be more relevant when attacking as in your preferred direction to pass.

[Wintergreen]

If you go to a rugby match to watch skill then George delivered again last night.

The pass was sublime.

The step in the last game, the pass last night.

A pleasure to watch.

[Panchitta Marra]

5 point cushion between us and 4th team position, Result.

[Panchitta Marra]

Absolute garbage.

No great forward running.

No skillful play.

No space created.

Completely boring as per usual.

It wasn't absolute garbage but it wasn't brilliant either.

The ries we scored bar the last one were good and took some scoring against a very good Hudds defence. One of the few games this season I think where we have not tried to score off the same move every time.

The bad bits were the errors, penalties and the left of our defence which was shocking. Every try Hudds scored came from down that side including the last one as they got down our end by another break on that side of the pitch.

Final score Wigan 30 Gelling 22.

Was Crabtree's try resultant from a left sided defencive error, I thought it more of a mismatch of a scrum half having to stop a 6'7" prop forward. I didn't see Gellings involvement in that leaked try.
Yes he didn't have one of his best games but is it really as negative as your last line comment.

[markill]

It wasn't just Gelling, it was the whole unit on that side. No talking. No cohesion. Then when you get one or two missed tackles it looks really bad. A couple of them stated much further inside than Gelling though. Something they need to fix up if they are going to be in those spots for a few weeks.

Although, it would have been even worse if they had Jack Hughes as their second row and nor Farrell. Farrell totally showed him up last night I thought.

Charnley and Crosby were the only players who did OK in that opening period and I think Sam Powell was decent in his spell, much better than McIlorum had been to that point. It didn't hurt that as a team we stopped giving away as many penalties when the bench players came on either. After that, it could have been more comfortable than we let it be.

[Owd Codger]

Absolute garbage.

No great forward running.

No skillful play.

No space created.

Completely boring as per usual.

It wasn't absolute garbage but it wasn't brilliant either.

The ries we scored bar the last one were good and took some scoring against a very good Hudds defence. One of the few games this season I think where we have not tried to score off the same move every time.

The bad bits were the errors, penalties and the left of our defence which was shocking. Every try Hudds scored came from down that side including the last one as they got down our end by another break on that side of the pitch.

Final score Wigan 30 Gelling 22.

Correct Dave O, but unless we win by a big score, never good enough for some!

On their day, the Giants are a difficult team to beat, especially if Brough is on form.

Not boring, just not regarding some other teams with respect and thinking we only have to turn up.

Last night was a good example until I suspect they got a mouthful from Wane at half time.

And Bateman is not only good, but a great signing!

[Tuigamala]

I agree tonight wasn't brilliant but some of our play at times was breathtaking, however some of our defence and in particular Gelling was awful! I think after 2 weeks off we are usually abysmal and lose but tonight was more about our character and desire which pleased me the most!

I thought we'd be rusty and might struggle as Hudds looked a big set of players warming up and looked sharper.

When they went 10-0 up with two virtually identical scores with our defence making the exact same mistake I thought they would have gone that way time after time.

They did to a degree but on a few occasions went back inside hoping the middle had moved left to cover but they kept in position and managed to put the tackles in.

That try form Faz was crucial and was a great break from him. That an the one from Williams pass were the tries of the night.

I also thought Powell did OK. He actually injected a bit of spark I thought.

As to the props I am sure Tauati will get slagged off for the errors in particular the two he made more or less as soon as he came on but him and Clubb were far more aggressive than Crosby and Mossop.

Where was Flower? If he's not injured one of those has got to make way next week.

I Dunno DaveO I thought personally only Crosby had a real dig in the front row the others were pretty average with the exception of a couple of decent charges by Clubb. Faz was immense and looked like he was playing his first game of the season looked very fresh. Gells definitely had a bad one last night but he's put more above average and beyond performances in this year so he gets the benefit of the doubt seen as we hung on for the win. Tautai well weve re-named him calamity jane in our house, still waiting to be convinced.

Regardless I agreed with Wanes analysis of the game not happy with the performance but happy to get the 2 points against a good Huddersfield side. Williams had a stormer again, created 3 try's and I don't think anyone can deny that Jack Hughes had a blinder too regardless of what any other biased posters say I thought he played to his max last night.

Bring on the Winos!

[KOOCH]

It was not the best game of rugby to watch with errors to boot.But some people just are not willing to accept that Huddersfield came with a decent game plan that they stuck with and it nearly paid off.They are a good solid defensive unit that many teams will find hard to break down.Unfortunately too many posters are so obsessed with finding fault within our own ranks than looking at what Huddersfield did right to break us down. Shaun Wane and our coaching staff will not be blind to the fact that it was not down to just how bad our players where but how good Huddersfield where in exploiting our weakness.Paul Anderson ( a man who I loathe because of his comments when a saints player about Wigan)is not a stupid person nor his coaching staff. Yes Gelling was a little lazy and Manfredi was playing out of position but give some credit to Huddersfield.We won a n ugly game that either side could have won but fortunately we won out. The real test of character comes next week.But all this aside credit to the team for coming away with a win.

[Owd Codger]

Absolute garbage.

No great forward running.

No skillful play.

No space created.

Completely boring as per usual.

It wasn't absolute garbage but it wasn't brilliant either.

The ries we scored bar the last one were good and took some scoring against a very good Hudds defence. One of the few games this season I think where we have not tried to score off the same move every time.

The bad bits were the errors, penalties and the left of our defence which was shocking. Every try Hudds scored came from down that side including the last one as they got down our end by another break on that side of the pitch.

Final score Wigan 30 Gelling 22.

What about the knock on by Crosby which led to one of the tries?

Come on Dave O, he was not the only one at fault with the defence on that side of the field.