Pat Richards...

[cpwigan]

Apologies Dave my mistake. I guess he can stay. He needs to damn well improve though. He runs like a sissy for his size.

[Wigan Watcher]

Very few words to say about Richards.

What a Bad game he had, if he is a good player then so am I.

What a bad buy! And it should be just that at the end of the season buy buy!

[stevocod]

yokozuna posted:

stevocod posted:
even if you deem it bad communication was a very unlucky bounce and could happen to the highest paid player to the lowliest amateur, just the way a rugby ball goes. Your being a bit harsh no matter how many miles away you are.

Like I said, it was a mistake. He didn't need to let it bounce at all, and was slow in getting to it.

BUT, he's been one of the better players for us this season. I think he'll put this game behind him and show us how he can play from now on.

Yeah but he couldn't see the trajectory of the ball until he was behind Orr and called it and i think that knocked his confidence for the one he conceded for the try. Im not defending the try he conceded but the goal line drop critisism is harsh.

Orr should have called really and wouldn't have bounced then but because Richards did not see where it was landing he shouldn't of called, the call was wrong but it was bad communication from a bad view of the ball.

Sometimes when teams are in a bad run they want to do anything but knock on from a kick off which, let's face it, been our problem alot and always allows an opposing team momentum and field position.

On that basis alone Richards was opting for safety first approach without realising where the ball was landing on a slippery surface. Whereas i agree with you it's his fault, it's still a bit harsh because Orr should have shouted too and claimed it.

[DaveO]

stevocod posted:
On that basis alone Richards was opting for safety first approach without realising where the ball was landing on a slippery surface. Whereas i agree with you it's his fault, it's still a bit harsh because Orr should have shouted too and claimed it.

Quite simply it was not Richards fault at all that the kick off went out on the full.

Or should have caught it. He was in front of Richards, it was heading down his throat and he let the ball bounce which is criminal.

Richards had a poor game but if we start blaming him for things that were not his fault then that is when all logic goes out the window and before long everything bad about the team will be down to him.

Dave

[stevocod]

DaveO posted:

stevocod posted:
On that basis alone Richards was opting for safety first approach without realising where the ball was landing on a slippery surface. Whereas i agree with you it's his fault, it's still a bit harsh because Orr should have shouted too and claimed it.

Quite simply it was not Richards fault at all that the kick off went out on the full.

Or should have caught it. He was in front of Richards, it was heading down his throat and he let the ball bounce which is criminal.

Richards had a poor game but if we start blaming him for things that were not his fault then that is when all logic goes out the window and before long everything bad about the team will be down to him.

Dave

Yes i agree blame does get thrown around alot on this forum, but Orr looked round as if Richards called, so he must have said something, but i am with you that Orr should have taken it.

[DaveO]

stevocod posted:
Yes i agree blame does get thrown around alot on this forum, but Orr looked round as if Richards called, so he must have said something, but i am with you that Orr should have taken it.

If you read further back in this thread (or it may be mentioned on another one on this forum) the allegation is that Orr turned around to say "Yours" to Richards having made a mess of it himself. If correct that is pathetic as he was trying to make out he left it deliberately when he should have caught it.

Dave

[stevocod]

DaveO posted:

stevocod posted:
Yes i agree blame does get thrown around alot on this forum, but Orr looked round as if Richards called, so he must have said something, but i am with you that Orr should have taken it.

If you read further back in this thread (or it may be mentioned on another one on this forum) the allegation is that Orr turned around to say "Yours" to Richards having made a mess of it himself. If correct that is pathetic as he was trying to make out he left it deliberately when he should have caught it.

Dave

If that is the case I apoligise and hold my hand up, but the interpretation of it on Sky was that Richards called. I am only going on this and it seemed as if Orr responded and said yours after he called mine, so both players are equally to blame. But on the other hand Orr should have made a firm call either way.

It doesn't matter whos call it was it was bad communication and rather than put blame, they need to work together to eradicate this happening again.

[mike binder]

prat richards called for it no /? asked and orr had to leave it ,but he want leave it for butter fingers next time :eh:

[stevocod]

mike binder posted:
prat richards called for it no /? asked and orr had to leave it ,but he want leave it for butter fingers next time :eh:

Well he shouldn't have left it in the first place and Richards didnt know it was going to bounce short of him because Orr was in the way. Butterfingers comment is harsh on that particular incident because of the weather conditions and the fact it hit the ground first.

[wiganrldeanh]

not read the entire of this thread but IMO richards is doing great, just makes a few mistakes like last night.